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Remember when the primaries started and all of Trump's stances seemed ridiculous?  Oh how quickly the GOP falls in line

In the face of political opposition that clearly has no intention of helping to fix immigration and views the issue solely through the prism of politics and political gain.

Yes, the democrats made him abuse those children.

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Agree with dax, trump is a gross
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So annoying when the opposition party doesn't do whatever you want

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There's a difference between alternative proposals that have real merit, as opposed to just fighting everything brought to the table.   This is not hard. 

Sadly we had 8 wasted years, and thousands of detained and lost kids with no real concerns expressed by LibBot nation.

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Pretty sad Trump is caving to the wills and wishes of the people.  Losing street cred on the wannabe dictator scale.
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Pretty sad Trump is caving to the wills and wishes of the people.  Losing street cred on the wannabe dictator scale.
lol. This crap right here is what's wrong with you ppl.

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Remember when the primaries started and all of Trump's stances seemed ridiculous?  Oh how quickly the GOP falls in line

In the face of political opposition that clearly has no intention of helping to fix immigration and views the issue solely through the prism of politics and political gain.

Yes, the democrats made him abuse those children.

This little ordeal has made trump's "primary policies" seem much more rational. Sadly, the situation on the border that's been ignored for years (bc politically inconvenient) is an unmitigated disaster largely created by incoherent policy and an absurd application of asylum.

It's also becoming clear that the democrats essentially have no policies, which makes it hard to care when they whine about everything.
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There's a difference between alternative proposals that have real merit, as opposed to just fighting everything brought to the table.   This is not hard. 

Sadly we had 8 wasted years, and thousands of detained and lost kids with no real concerns expressed by LibBot nation.

Dax, you've been doing a good job of regurgitating the Trump talking points, but pro-tip: these two are never supposed to go side by side.  The hypocrisy is way too obvious.

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I mean that you believe Mexicans should be able to cross the border

yes.

and do whatever they want without having to go through any formal immigration procedures.

no.

I’m sure you know what our country has settled on in this issue and would maybe like to see a different approach.  If enough of your fellow citizens feel the way you do perhaps the representatives you elect will change the law.  10 years ago there was an opportunity to make a change like this but it was not pursued, maybe because even though it could have been done it would have been against the will of the people and they thought better of it.

i don't think there was any opportunity to pursue meaningfully more open borders 10 years ago and i don't think there is likely to be in the near to medium-term future.
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:lol: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/jailing-families-together-is-not-immigration-reform/

Well that didn't take long. Now detaining children with their families is "a human rights violation." Cue the lawsuits in 3, 2, 1.... Again, this manufactured hysteria was never about the children, who are currently in a far better situation than when their "parents" were smuggling them north. It has always been about open borders.
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I suspect sys wouldn't limit it to just Mexicans.

i wouldn't want to limit immigration to mexicans and canadians, but i do think it would make sense to build on nafta to provide for greater labor freedoms between nafta nations.
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idk the numbers but mexican immigration has slowed quite a bit. recent illegal immigration is coming from el salvador, honduras, and guatemala.

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idk the numbers but mexican immigration has slowed quite a bit. recent illegal immigration is coming from el salvador, honduras, and guatemala.

net migration from mexico is negative.  more mexicans are leaving the united states than are arriving.
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So did they just paint over the Obama murals?

Each wing of the detention center in question was named after a president, with a mural. You probably got your news from a tweet that only mentioned the Trump mural. I don't know if Obama got his own wing. Maybe they painted over it for Trump, but that's just wishful thinking.
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So did they just paint over the Obama murals?

Each wing of the detention center in question was named after a president, with a mural. You probably got your news from a tweet that only mentioned the Trump mural. I don't know if Obama got his own wing. Maybe they painted over it for Trump, but that's just wishful thinking.

Which presidents had wings and murals named after them?  If Obama built it like FSD said I would assume he has one :dunno:
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So did they just paint over the Obama murals?

Each wing of the detention center in question was named after a president, with a mural. You probably got your news from a tweet that only mentioned the Trump mural. I don't know if Obama got his own wing. Maybe they painted over it for Trump, but that's just wishful thinking.

Which presidents had wings and murals named after them?  If Obama built it like FSD said I would assume he has one :dunno:

Do you honestly believe these "concentration camps" did not predate trump????

Do you have any idea how long it takes the federal government to build something????

Good grief
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So did they just paint over the Obama murals?

Each wing of the detention center in question was named after a president, with a mural. You probably got your news from a tweet that only mentioned the Trump mural. I don't know if Obama got his own wing. Maybe they painted over it for Trump, but that's just wishful thinking.

Which presidents had wings and murals named after them?  If Obama built it like FSD said I would assume he has one :dunno:

Do you honestly believe these "concentration camps" did not predate trump????

Do you have any idea how long it takes the federal government to build something????

Good grief

So you don’t have an answer, got it.
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There is an Obama mural.

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Thank you. I just wanted an answer.
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Oh so Obama’s is uniting and inviting and Trumps is condescending and dividing.  :thumbs:
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Just another reminder that getting your news by tweet from a biased journalist is not very reliable. Focusing on a Trump mural while failing to mention others is "fake news." Also, I'm pretty sure this center in question wasn't "built," but is a re-purposed former Walmart.
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