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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2018, 08:25:21 PM »
I can't even imagine the trauma of having a 3rd party pay 5* players to play sports at my school. It's like, 1) watching a loved get murdered, 2) being an #addidastoo victim, 3) dying of testicular cancer
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2018, 08:30:47 PM »
Naw, doesn't bother me. I think it's the Beas knees.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #77 on: April 11, 2018, 08:48:06 PM »
You are a UT fan, of course it doesn’t bother you(word play aside).

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2018, 09:49:17 PM »
Guys, if said player goes to said school that is represented by X and X pays for them to do it. Said player might sign with said X company when he becomes a lottery pick. I can't believe I have to explain this to some of you. Get your crap together, Trim.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2018, 09:49:41 PM »

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2018, 10:08:34 PM »

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2018, 10:09:50 PM »
Oh my
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2018, 10:17:49 PM »
Adidas is gonna have to sell a lot of those shirts to make up for the money they blew on all those guys.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2018, 10:20:21 PM »
Not surprised a corporate attorney spoon fed with clients doesn't get busines. :shrug:


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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2018, 07:37:07 AM »
:lol:

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KU’s hallowed basketball program is extremely valuable and marketable. To keep its luster, university officials should distance KU from tainted money and seek sponsorship from a different source after their original deal with Adidas expires next year.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article208641479.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #86 on: April 12, 2018, 08:45:12 AM »
Anyone think that these payments were written in to KU's Adidas contract? Like 2% of the money given actually had an asterisk by it saying "2% to be retained by Adidas for "distribution and advertising" purposes decided by Adidas at a later date"... like KU getting a guarantee from Adidas that they will funnel money to players to keep them coming there?


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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #87 on: April 12, 2018, 09:15:13 AM »
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KU’s hallowed basketball program is extremely valuable and marketable. To keep its luster, university officials should distance KU from tainted money and seek sponsorship from a different source after their original deal with Adidas expires next year.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article208641479.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #88 on: April 12, 2018, 09:19:53 AM »
BTW KU Karl thinks this is all a bunch of bullshit, and he'll never buy another Adidas 75% mark down item ever again.


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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #89 on: April 12, 2018, 09:22:17 AM »
BTW KU Karl thinks this is all a bunch of bullshit, and he'll never buy another Adidas 75% mark down item ever again.

(He will though)

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #90 on: April 12, 2018, 09:26:59 AM »
So, what's your theory, if not simple biz economics?

That it must be worth giving up to $100k each to dozens (hundreds) of kids to route them to certain schools in order to have some perceived advantage in signing them as an eventual pro multiplied by the long shot chance they become a Lebron/KD type of market force. It doesn’t seem to me that math works, but it must unless i’m missing something.
Nike, Adidas and UA combined for more than $50 billion in sales in 2016 -
spreading a coupe mil around the top 50 every year may actually be the proverbial rounding error

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« Reply #91 on: April 12, 2018, 09:43:38 AM »
I guess my thinking is that at KU those coaches don't ever have to get their hands dirty because it's KU.  Recruits will be steered towards them by the handlers getting paid by adidas.  The system has been in place a long time, coaches don't have to get hands dirty.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #92 on: April 12, 2018, 09:44:28 AM »


Very good.  Also that jayhawk always reminds me of this thing from super mario 2:




"You want to stand next to someone and not be able to hear them, walk your ass into Manhattan, Kansas." - [REDACTED]

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #93 on: April 12, 2018, 09:58:55 AM »
I think we need to look at shoe companies as boosters, that simplifies the whole ‘but coach didn’t know stuff’
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #94 on: April 12, 2018, 09:59:45 AM »
So, what's your theory, if not simple biz economics?

That it must be worth giving up to $100k each to dozens (hundreds) of kids to route them to certain schools in order to have some perceived advantage in signing them as an eventual pro multiplied by the long shot chance they become a Lebron/KD type of market force. It doesn’t seem to me that math works, but it must unless i’m missing something.
Nike, Adidas and UA combined for more than $50 billion in sales in 2016 -
spreading a coupe mil around the top 50 every year may actually be the proverbial rounding error

Absolutely, but I'd distinguish Nike from the others.  Nike's already won multiple times.  Adidas and UA are still hoping for their investment in lottery tickets to hit.  That's where I question for how long and how much they'd keep w/that strategy.

You also have to add in the money they're paying to schools to have places to stash their lottery tickets.  But to your point, it's still not that much because I'm sure that out of, for example, the $197m over 12 years that ku puts out that they'll get from adidas, a decent amount of that is in product, which costs adidas essentially nothing.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #95 on: April 12, 2018, 10:05:19 AM »
Anyone think that these payments were written in to KU's Adidas contract? Like 2% of the money given actually had an asterisk by it saying "2% to be retained by Adidas for "distribution and advertising" purposes decided by Adidas at a later date"... like KU getting a guarantee from Adidas that they will funnel money to players to keep them coming there?
Yes.  THIS is how it has to work.  No way are players worth $100k to Adidas as potential stars.  They're worth far more than that to these basketball programs and universities, though.

I would be very surprised if it's in the contract even implicitly.  Just factored into the deal, I'd think.

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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #96 on: April 12, 2018, 10:15:22 AM »
Good grief, ever hear of Sonny Vacaro.  Adidas gets their ass kicked in the shoe game their flagship is Kansas and they don’t want their flagship to suck while wearing their shoes because kids will associate wearing adidas with being losery and continue making their parents buy them Nike’s.  That’s it
« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 04:20:38 PM by gatoveintisiete »
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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2018, 10:17:03 AM »
I suspect Coach Self is pretty hurt that his Adidas BFF went behind his back and did this stuff.

There's no way Coach Self could have picked up on the sudden change in interest in KU by these guys after the alleged payouts from Adidas.   I'm sure the KU stuff were all high fiving and fist pumping at their sudden good fortune, and now to a person they're likely really let down.   




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Re: KU Added To FBI Addidas Probe
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2018, 10:31:18 AM »
You guys are killing this thread by trying to figure out how marketing works and it's dreadful. Take it Wacky's world.

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