2020 presidential candidate 'crats

[sys]

to clarify, those %s are for winning a majority or a plurality, not the %s of winning a plurality, if no one wins a majority.

[Kat Kid]

Steve Kornacki is a K-State sports fan for some totally random reason.

yeah, it's amazing.

that is great, how do we know this?

[sonofdaxjones]

KK, just want to be clear hear.  It doesn't matter that Bernie keeps talking about his deep affinity for many things in the old Soviet system?

Just want to make sure I'm clear on that, and that I and everyone else is just supposed to over look Bernie's doubling, well, tripling down on this matter.


Thanks again, KK.

[sys]

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/527849977692061696

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/527855551875923968

[Rage Against the McKee]

I really wish that the fivethirtyeight would break down "no one" more than they do. It's really easy for me to look at it as Sanders getting a plurality but not a majority, but some of that percentage has to also account for Biden getting a plurality. I don't think the DNC would nominate someone without the plurality. I'm guessing it's about 70% Sanders gets the nomination at this point unless the DNC actually goes with someone else in a brokered convention.

they do.  click on the underlined words in the sentence below the title to change from majority to plurality.  it is 67% sanders plurality, 23% biden at the moment.

Thanks.

[chum1]

I heard (or read) someone ask Kornacki about it once. I don't remember at all what he said because it was just totally random. It might as well have been, "I like their style!" Another tweet:

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/261643110520614912

[mocat]

is he related to Karen Kornacki

[sonofdaxjones]

The onslaught of Bloomie and Obama working together ads is immense.   That gun control message from the Bloomberg campaign painting a lockstep approach with then President Obama is going to play quite well here in the South.  That's money well spent right there, on point.

[sys]

So Bernie is going to compromise into Pete's positions?

yeah, the compromise is ok, but only when we do it argument is a bit too openly cynical for me to swallow.  although my general election vote doesn't matter, i'd consider my vote to be very barely gettable for a sanders campaign, but they're definitely not off to a good start.

[michigancat]

So Bernie is going to compromise into Pete's positions?

yeah, the compromise is ok, but only when we do it argument is a bit too openly cynical for me to swallow.

who is saying this?

[sys]

aoc.  you quoted her approvingly.

[Trim]

Is there anything beyond ego that precludes any of these people from becoming a pres/vp tag team right now?

[michigancat]

aoc.  you quoted her approvingly.

I guess I missed the part where she said it wasn't OK for other people to compromise

[sys]

the sanders campaign has argued that for a year plus.

[michigancat]

the sanders campaign has argued that for a year plus.

Sanders has argued that "compromise is ok, but only when we do it"? I don't think that's true, you're probably projecting because you're sad about Beto

[sys]

jfc, michigan.  i don't have the energy for this.  the sanders campaign has imposed purity tests on the rest of the field from the start of the campaign until today (and will no doubt continue).  meanwhile you have aoc, a very high profile campaign surrogate, talking about how they will happily compromise down to the positions they attacked other campaigns for running on, not just on any random issue, but on the signature issue that sanders made the centerpiece of his candidacy.

if you're fine with that, great.  enjoy your politics.  as i said, it's too cynical for me.

[michigancat]

jfc, michigan.  i don't have the energy for this.  the sanders campaign has imposed purity tests on the rest of the field from the start of the campaign until today (and will no doubt continue).  meanwhile you have aoc, a very high profile campaign surrogate, talking about how they will happily compromise down to the positions they attacked other campaigns for running on, not just on any random issue, but on the signature issue that sanders made the centerpiece of his candidacy.

if you're fine with that, great.  enjoy your politics.  as i said, it's too cynical for me.

I've heard about these "imposed purity tests" but only from other candidates (and folks like you). what you consider a "purity test" for Bernie is just a having a different policy position for everyone else.

talk about cynical, my goodness.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Does anybody here really want VA Healthcare for All? I mean, what part of this “progressive agenda” do you actually want (and are willing to pay higher taxes to supposedly afford)? Or is it less the new entitlements and more about the new authoritarianism on thing like guns that excites you?

[chum1]

Just want to own the MAGAs. Nothing more, nothing less.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Just want to own the MAGAs. Nothing more, nothing less.

K. Would how much higher taxes would you be willing to pay to own us?

[chum1]

Just want to own the MAGAs. Nothing more, nothing less.

K. Would how much higher taxes would you be willing to pay to own us?

I want your tax rate to be 100%.

[Kat Kid]

Bernie is campaigning on and lay out a vision for Medicare 4 All and healthcare as a human right. He has offered a strategic vision, his plan and the tactics he intends to employ to achieve this goal.

Obviously no president gets to unilaterally impost an agenda, but Pete and co. don't get the moral high ground by compromising with themselves first and then compromising at the bargaining table back to the status quo and saying they "did what they could."

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/roper_93/status/1232734131756335114?s=21

[Kat Kid]

Bernie is campaigning on and lay out a vision for Medicare 4 All and healthcare as a human right. He has offered a strategic vision, his plan and the tactics he intends to employ to achieve this goal.

Obviously no president gets to unilaterally impost an agenda, but Pete and co. don't get the moral high ground by compromising with themselves first and then compromising at the bargaining table back to the status quo and saying they "did what they could."

Would Klo veto a more progressive bill passed by Congress on healthcare?

She would never get one on her desk to start with.

[sys]

Bernie is campaigning on and lay out a vision for Medicare 4 All and healthcare as a human right. He has offered a strategic vision, his plan and the tactics he intends to employ to achieve this goal.

Obviously no president gets to unilaterally impost an agenda, but Pete and co. don't get the moral high ground by compromising with themselves first and then compromising at the bargaining table back to the status quo and saying they "did what they could."

in other words, it's ok for sanders to compromise, but not anyone else.