2020 presidential candidate 'crats

[sonofdaxjones]

Biden is only aligned closer to the class warfare King and Queen by necessity, not by historical precedent.

[michigancat]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

OK sys

[steve dave]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

MAGAs do this same thing. Every Pub that isn't in lockstep with the far right MAGAs are no different than dems. I think it becomes hard to differentiate what's going on when you are way out on the edge in either direction.

[star seed 7]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

Because kRusty is fringier than kk and mir

[Rage Against the McKee]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

MAGAs do this same thing. Every Pub that isn't in lockstep with the far right MAGAs are no different than dems. I think it becomes hard to differentiate what's going on when you are way out on the edge in either direction.

To be fair to the MAGAs, there are no pubs who are not in lockstep with far right MAGAs anymore. They have all quit.

[michigancat]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

MAGAs do this same thing. Every Pub that isn't in lockstep with the far right MAGAs are no different than dems. I think it becomes hard to differentiate what's going on when you are way out on the edge in either direction.

yes it is very difficult to differentiate between something like Medicare for All and a complete repeal of Obamacare or something like walking away from the Paris climate agreement and supporting the Green New Deal. I can see how that is confusing.

[michigancat]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

OK sys

ok I misread this and see how my post got misunderstood when you strip the original context. Of course the centrists are closer to Sanders and Warren than they are to Trump (on most issues). But they're also closer to Trump than Warren and Sanders are. Moderates want the needle pushed away from the sanders fringe and closer to the trump fringe than it would be if, say, Warren were elected.

[catastrophe]

the moderates on this blog want candidates that align more closely to folks like K-S-U than Kat Kid and MiR.

i haven't actually paid enough attention to bloomberg to know where he falls on policy (although i assume, pretty standard dem stuff), but if you think klobsie, buttigieg or biden is more aligned with trump than with sanders or warren, you're completely delusional.

OK sys

ok I misread this and see how my post got misunderstood when you strip the original context. Of course the centrists are closer to Sanders and Warren than they are to Trump (on most issues). But they're also closer to Trump than Warren and Sanders are. Moderates want the needle pushed away from the warren and sanders fringe and closer to the trump fringe.

So your original statement was that folks who are not as far left as Sanders and Warren are closer to the right than Sanders/Warren?

[Rage Against the McKee]

That is like saying that Warren and Sanders want the needle pushed away from some fringe that is even left of them and toward the Trump fringe.

[sys]

Moderates want the needle pushed away from the sanders fringe and closer to the trump fringe than it would be if, say, Warren were elected.

your statement intent then was that board moderates prefer to be more aligned with trump than do katkid and mir?

[Spracne]

I'm going to get stoned and reread the last few posts to see if it clicks...

[sonofdaxjones]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483751-former-skeptics-now-warning-of-brokered-convention-nightmare-for-democrats

[sys]

https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/1230544629789007872

[catastrophe]

It won't lead to a war of fake videos.  It's a bad idea that any leading candidate is not going to try to replicate.

[chum1]

Would the average board moderate have more in common politically with KSUW than with KK or MIR? I mean, yeah, it seems so.

[meow meow]

someone should make a graph of the political spectrum plotting various gE posters/presidential candidates/etc

[Rage Against the McKee]

Would the average board moderate have more in common politically with KSUW than with KK or MIR? I mean, yeah, it seems so.

With 2015 KSUW? Sure. Not with 2020 KSUW.

[steve dave]

someone should make a graph of the political spectrum plotting various gE posters/presidential candidates/etc

far left        near left         moderate      near right        far right       MAGAs
kk, krusty, mir    chum1 sys  sd                        33                          dax    misc ks chuds
bernie      liz                       obama        pete     bloomberg           trump           

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Would the average board moderate have more in common politically with KSUW than with KK or MIR? I mean, yeah, it seems so.

With 2015 KSUW? Sure. Not with 2020 KSUW.

I don't think I've changed that much. I didn't like Trump in 2015 and I don't like him now. The only difference is that in 2015 I didn't think he could win and even if he did, I didn't think he would advance conservative causes. He proved me wrong. But I still think he's an idiot mcjerkface. I'm just pragmatic enough to support him despite my personal qualms. (And to be fair, I do enjoy the liberal hysteria). I could be wrong, but I think I'm pretty representative of a great many "MAGAs." But of course there's a difference between a bandwagon MAGA such as myself and the true, fullblown NASCAR MAGAs that got in on the groundfloor. I don't own a MAGA hat but am considering buying one for the troll factor.

[sonofdaxjones]

My Chart:

Full Fledged Commies     Fake Centrists/Closeted Socialists   Pragmatists

[michigancat]

My Chart:

Full Fledged Commies     Fake Centrists/Closeted Socialists   Pragmatists

lol

[steve dave]

lmao


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[sonofdaxjones]

I've started the pragmatist section for you guys:

(Super Intelligent) Pragmatist

Dax

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So my journey has taken me to where I should have been in the first place. Warren's support of Ilhan Omar, her unapologetic progressive agenda, and her well stated plan on paying for student loan forgiveness, I'm team Liz and I ain't leaving. I'll probably support the Democratic candidate no matter what unless it's Biden. Trump is winning Iowa in the general anyway, so who cares if I vote green or independent?

First...
https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/fbi-reviewing-claims-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

And now...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8013283/Ilhan-Omar-DID-marry-brother-reveals-Somali-community-leader.html

I think "the walls are closing in" on Ilhan.... Seems like exactly the sort of fraudster that would appeal to Liz.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Holy crap.