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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1025 on: March 22, 2019, 08:09:23 AM »
Listened to a Pete interview, I'm now #TeamPete

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1026 on: March 22, 2019, 08:26:35 AM »
Listened to a Pete interview, I'm now #TeamPete

YES!

Whoa this is a big get for #teampete
I'd still vote for a Pub primary challenger given any viable opportunity, but Pete's a smart dude. A little too far left for me probably, but you can't get everything.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1027 on: March 22, 2019, 08:40:51 AM »
YES! SHOW THOSE BOOMER DINOSAURS WHO'S THE BOSS NOW!!!

https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1109079801359466499

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1028 on: March 22, 2019, 09:09:19 AM »
Based on what we know, he seems like the kind of complete weirdo LibDerp Nation can really get behind.



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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1029 on: March 22, 2019, 09:12:52 AM »
Pete is the sort of person who should be campaigning with his whole crew and readily acknowledging, "I don't have all of the necessary experience myself in ______, so that's why I have ______ here with me who will be in charge of ______..."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1032 on: March 22, 2019, 01:39:22 PM »
buttigieg is transitioning into a real candidate.


https://twitter.com/HCTrudo/status/1109104762010652672
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1033 on: March 22, 2019, 05:37:44 PM »
buttigieg is transitioning into a real candidate.


https://twitter.com/HCTrudo/status/1109104762010652672

fundraising is important, but it isn't the only thing. just ask Jeb Bush.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1034 on: March 22, 2019, 06:50:09 PM »
buttigieg is transitioning into a real candidate.


https://twitter.com/HCTrudo/status/1109104762010652672

fundraising is important, but it isn't the only thing. just ask Jeb Bush.
Pretty clear that ButtGuy has more charisma than Jeb in his pinky finger alone
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1035 on: March 22, 2019, 07:47:54 PM »

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1036 on: March 22, 2019, 08:34:24 PM »
fundraising is important, but it isn't the only thing. just ask Jeb Bush.

not even remotely analogous situations.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1037 on: March 22, 2019, 09:17:18 PM »
KK, post your candidate!


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1038 on: March 22, 2019, 09:58:45 PM »
he's a bernie bro, sd.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1039 on: March 22, 2019, 11:13:46 PM »
he's a bernie bro, sd.

I was hoping for something more profound but feared this was true


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1040 on: March 23, 2019, 12:14:01 AM »
Bootyjudge  :excited:
You are dipping into the Kool Aid and you don't even know what flavor it is.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1041 on: March 23, 2019, 03:35:55 AM »
Beto needs to take much stronger policy positions, frankly any policy positions really, or he's going to be chewed up to the point where it'll do damage to his future political aspirations. They'll bully him on the debate stage this summer. Pete is a real bad look for Beto, he's a young relatable white dude but he's coming out of the gate strongly with policy positions and not skateboarding photo ops.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1042 on: March 23, 2019, 07:21:00 AM »
If Beto starts getting serious about policy (or anything else), he'll risk losing those of us who will vote for him as the last hope for a Gen X president.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1044 on: March 23, 2019, 08:10:58 AM »
If Beto starts getting serious about policy (or anything else), he'll risk losing those of us who will vote for him as the last hope for a Gen X president.
What do you mean by last hope for GenX?  Obama was GenX.  Booker, Gilibrand, Harris and Castro are all GenX.


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1045 on: March 23, 2019, 08:17:30 AM »
If Beto starts getting serious about policy (or anything else), he'll risk losing those of us who will vote for him as the last hope for a Gen X president.
What do you mean by last hope for GenX?  Obama was GenX.  Booker, Gilibrand, Harris and Castro are all GenX.

I mean the stereotype. (Which pretty much only applies to middle to upper class, white people in the first place.)

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1046 on: March 23, 2019, 09:19:59 AM »
he's a bernie bro, sd.

I was hoping for something more profound but feared this was true


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Most of KK's pit posts go over my head so I've always assumed he was one of those niche people who support like bill weld or something. Bernie bro would certainly be disappointing.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1047 on: March 23, 2019, 09:49:52 AM »
KK, post your candidate!


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just whenever. it's not like we're irl friends or anything.

Sorry, been interacting with our country's fantastic health care system. Bronchitis for sonofkk no. 1.

I honestly have not gone super in depth on candidate policy platforms yet.  Most candidates, other than Bernie, don't even have much beyond vague statements and the only candidate that has a comprehensive platform is Andrew Yang (who now is going to debate Ben Shapiro on circumcision?) and his platform is some good concepts (UBI, Free College) sprinkled in with half-baked tech-bro garbage
(Automatic Sunsetting of all laws???, Self-driving vehicles, "Create Department of Attention Economy", create an app to encourage volunteering, outlaw circumcision??).

I think Bernie is the most committed on stuff that will matter to me--Pro-Family, Pro-Education policies:
Medicare 4 ALL, free college (my kids probably won't qualify, but will increase enrollments at schools like K-State),
child care/early childhood education (my kids will be too old, but it is a really meaningful policy that will make a big difference)
Climate change (my grandkids are going to be War Boys)

I also think Bernie will be the best on foreign policy because he has so few pressure points. Are the Israeli's really going to call him anti-Semitic? Do you think he cares if he gets called a commie by the generals when he closes some bases or tries to rein in spending on the military? We could use with a lot less empire and Bernie seems the most committed to that idea.

I like Warren, I just think she is probably less good on each individual issue, has less of a movement behind her to advance the policy agenda.

Now, I honestly think that Bernie's agenda would be suffocated by McConnell and would stall out.  But he would put the choices in stark relief and beat a drum that would give the American people a clear choice about what is actually going on.  I can't say whether that would get the job done (I don't think it would in the short term), but it would clearly advance the ball. We went from a weak voiced defense of Obamacare under Hillary to now demanding Medicare 4 All in 4 years. So who knows?

I am interested in Boot-edge-edge, I don't think I've heard enough about his actual policies other than he is a "good guy" and very bright.

I think the rest of the bunch are all likely to massively disappoint in terms of even bothering to pushing for any reforms.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1049 on: March 23, 2019, 11:29:43 AM »
KK, post your candidate!


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just whenever. it's not like we're irl friends or anything.

Sorry, been interacting with our country's fantastic health care system. Bronchitis for sonofkk no. 1.

I honestly have not gone super in depth on candidate policy platforms yet.  Most candidates, other than Bernie, don't even have much beyond vague statements and the only candidate that has a comprehensive platform is Andrew Yang (who now is going to debate Ben Shapiro on circumcision?) and his platform is some good concepts (UBI, Free College) sprinkled in with half-baked tech-bro garbage
(Automatic Sunsetting of all laws???, Self-driving vehicles, "Create Department of Attention Economy", create an app to encourage volunteering, outlaw circumcision??).

I think Bernie is the most committed on stuff that will matter to me--Pro-Family, Pro-Education policies:
Medicare 4 ALL, free college (my kids probably won't qualify, but will increase enrollments at schools like K-State),
child care/early childhood education (my kids will be too old, but it is a really meaningful policy that will make a big difference)
Climate change (my grandkids are going to be War Boys)

I also think Bernie will be the best on foreign policy because he has so few pressure points. Are the Israeli's really going to call him anti-Semitic? Do you think he cares if he gets called a commie by the generals when he closes some bases or tries to rein in spending on the military? We could use with a lot less empire and Bernie seems the most committed to that idea.

I like Warren, I just think she is probably less good on each individual issue, has less of a movement behind her to advance the policy agenda.

Now, I honestly think that Bernie's agenda would be suffocated by McConnell and would stall out.  But he would put the choices in stark relief and beat a drum that would give the American people a clear choice about what is actually going on.  I can't say whether that would get the job done (I don't think it would in the short term), but it would clearly advance the ball. We went from a weak voiced defense of Obamacare under Hillary to now demanding Medicare 4 All in 4 years. So who knows?

I am interested in Boot-edge-edge, I don't think I've heard enough about his actual policies other than he is a "good guy" and very bright.

I think the rest of the bunch are all likely to massively disappoint in terms of even bothering to pushing for any reforms.

You are the best, that's a wonderful breakdown. Yes, Bernie will be called anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist. Post truth America, there are plenty of Jewish people called those things. I also think that being Jewish doesn't automatically exempt you from being those things, no more so than being a black or brown racist, see the Dinesh dude and that crap brain old Milwaukee sheriff.