Author Topic: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats (Read 544560 times)

sys · « **Reply #400 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:03:36 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on January 29, 2019, 11:17:32 AM

My hope is that this would moderate the democratic choice, but I’m not optimistic that it would have that effect.

he could exert far more influence by funding an appealing moderate candidate in the democratic primary.

catastrophe · « **Reply #401 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:04:36 PM »

Agree with that. People forget Bernie is not a Democrat.

sys · « **Reply #402 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:06:54 PM »

i mean, you don't see the kochs running quixotic presidential campaigns to try and leverage their billions into public policy influence. because they're not dumbasses.

8manpick · « **Reply #403 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:07:45 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 29, 2019, 01:03:36 PM

Quote from: 8manpick on January 29, 2019, 11:17:32 AM
My hope is that this would moderate the democratic choice, but I’m not optimistic that it would have that effect.

he could exert far more influence by funding an appealing moderate candidate in the democratic primary.

Quote from: catastrophe on January 29, 2019, 01:04:36 PM

Agree with that. People forget Bernie is not a Democrat.

Quote from: sys on January 29, 2019, 01:06:54 PM

i mean, you don't see the kochs running quixotic presidential campaigns to try and leverage their billions into public policy influence. because they're not dumbasses.

Yes to all of these

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #404 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:23:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1090272075363672065

sys · « **Reply #405 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:32:10 PM »

yeah, he's right about that. he would get his ass destroyed in a democratic primary.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #406 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:34:22 PM »

The last nominee was moderate neocon Hillary and people still think democrats are too far left

Smdh

star seed 7 · « **Reply #407 on:** January 29, 2019, 01:47:30 PM »

No real thread to put this in but @sys

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1090320213801869313

sys · « **Reply #408 on:** January 29, 2019, 02:01:22 PM »

i think they just want her to run for the ga senate though

Kat Kid · « **Reply #409 on:** January 29, 2019, 03:24:08 PM »

Quote from: _33 on January 29, 2019, 12:57:16 PM

If it's not Joe Biden then something has gone terribly wrong.

Joe Biden isn't winning a single primary.

_33 · « **Reply #410 on:** January 29, 2019, 05:34:58 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on January 29, 2019, 03:24:08 PM

Quote from: _33 on January 29, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
If it's not Joe Biden then something has gone terribly wrong.

Joe Biden isn't winning a single primary.

WHY?!

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #411 on:** January 30, 2019, 10:09:11 AM »

That's a very smart 5 year old!

https://twitter.com/DavidRutz/status/1090616439730515969

sys · « **Reply #412 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:43:29 AM »

if you're considering voting for harris based on her health care or tax proposals, this is important information.

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1090339377815920642

star seed 7 · « **Reply #413 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:47:42 AM »

More tax cuts

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #414 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:51:33 AM »

"this is our America"

How positively anti Big Tent . . . fantastic!!

wetwillie · « **Reply #415 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:52:38 AM »

I don’t think she has a chance with that as her top priority

star seed 7 · « **Reply #416 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:56:35 AM »

Besides "restoring dignity" or whatever, healthcare will be the top issue for any democrat

sys · « **Reply #417 on:** January 30, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »

Quote from: wetwillie on January 30, 2019, 11:52:38 AM

I don’t think she has a chance with that as her top priority

people still like money, i think.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #418 on:** January 30, 2019, 12:01:38 PM »

Quote from: sys on January 30, 2019, 11:43:29 AM

if you're considering voting for harris based on her health care or tax proposals, this is important information.

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1090339377815920642

This article is dumb. Harris is dumb too.

Quote

Harris is saying something Democrats, including many who support Medicare-for-all in theory, sometimes elide: True single-payer would mean the end of private insurance. The left wants America to catch up with most of the developed world, where health insurance is more or less a right of citizenship and costs are still lower, and they think the best, simplest way to do it is to put everybody into one national health care plan.

This is not true. Even Britain has private medical system with private insurance.

sys · « **Reply #419 on:** January 30, 2019, 12:11:43 PM »

i can never keep track of which of the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), non-descriptive names for hypothetical american healthcare goes with which specific hypothetical healthcare idea.

"medicare for all" is good because it can still mean almost anything, although some idiots are trying to assert that it can't.

sys · « **Reply #420 on:** January 30, 2019, 12:45:49 PM »

good (correct) thread talking about the politics of medicare for all.

https://twitter.com/JonWalkerDC/status/1090629449505067008

catastrophe · « **Reply #421 on:** January 30, 2019, 12:59:05 PM »

Unfortunately it’s just a political issue now. And I think Obama does deserve some blame for that.

sys · « **Reply #422 on:** January 30, 2019, 01:05:08 PM »

when was health care not a political issue? pre fdr?

catastrophe · « **Reply #423 on:** January 30, 2019, 01:37:02 PM »

Tribal issue? Idk what is best to call it, but I mean there’s really no opportunity to discuss the merits of single payer with Republicans in the current climate.

sys · « **Reply #424 on:** January 30, 2019, 01:38:36 PM »

polarized along partisan lines.