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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3775 on: November 24, 2019, 09:40:10 PM »
it was a lie, and just a bizarrely stupid one at that.  like, warren, people can check on where your children went to school.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3776 on: November 24, 2019, 10:10:51 PM »
it was a lie, and just a bizarrely stupid one at that.  like, warren, people can check on where your children went to school.
Is that a threat? Disgusting...

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3777 on: November 24, 2019, 11:23:59 PM »
it was a lie, and just a bizarrely stupid one at that.  like, warren, people can check on where your children went to school.

Her children didn't go to public school? Wow, learn something new everyday.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3778 on: November 25, 2019, 12:33:36 AM »
a protestor challenged warren, saying that she'd read that her children went to private schools.  warren denied this, stating that no, her children went to public schools.

this is a lie.  the protestor was not saying that she'd read that none of warren's children had ever attended a single day of public school.  and there is no reasonable reading of the assertion by warren to mean that she was stating that her children attended a mixture of public and private schools.

it is no different in form than trump asserting that he didn't extort ukrainian participation in creating a scandal for a potential election opponent by evidencing that he didn't do so in every communication with ukrainian officials.

it is a nonsensical argument.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3779 on: November 25, 2019, 02:07:49 AM »
the protestor was not saying that she'd read that none of warren's children had ever attended a single day of public school.  and there is no reasonable reading of the assertion by warren to mean that she was stating that her children attended a mixture of public and private schools.


The exchange was literally two seconds long, not nearly long enough for you to know the intent of either woman, it's likely neither of them knew. You're interpreting it that way because you choose to, not because your observation is fact.

Elizabeth Warren has two children, they both attended public school, one for the entirety of her schooling, the other for 5 years. These are indisputable facts. An indisputable fact can never be a lie.

We really aren't ready for a woman president.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3780 on: November 25, 2019, 04:02:03 AM »
let me crystallize this for you:

protester - "i read your children went to private schools"

warren - "no"
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3781 on: November 25, 2019, 06:14:53 AM »
Sounds like Warren is disputing that the protester read that.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3782 on: November 25, 2019, 06:38:18 AM »
This is where Warren lies. It isn’t disputable. The lie isn’t that her kids went to public school, it’s where she clearly says “no”. 

I don’t take it to mean that much, Warren is just another politician telling people what they want to hear.


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3783 on: November 25, 2019, 09:12:58 AM »
MEH

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3784 on: November 25, 2019, 09:21:13 AM »
If one of her children went exclusively to public school, Warren quite factually is not lying.  Her children, plural, did not go to private school.  People can say she is intentionally misrepresenting her kid's schooling but she was not lying.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3785 on: November 25, 2019, 09:53:21 AM »
If this is gonna be your warren take down.....wow

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3786 on: November 25, 2019, 10:03:49 AM »
The gist is that the protester is saying, "public school wasn't good enough for your own kids," and she is replying, "no, it was good enough."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3787 on: November 25, 2019, 11:28:53 AM »
The usual flailing about.  Liz sent her kid to a private school or a really good well funded public school in a zip code where the average adjusted gross income is nearly $100k and the partial feeder zips are higher. 

Only we can protect our liars (LibBot Nation).

No choice for you! (Liz Warren)




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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3788 on: November 25, 2019, 12:52:23 PM »
I don’t take it to mean that much, Warren is just another politician telling people what they want to hear.

warren and buttigieg definitely fall into that camp of politicians.

https://twitter.com/Jehmu/status/1172566571505586176
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3789 on: November 25, 2019, 12:55:04 PM »
I know it is your belief that Beto had that special something, but I think your use of “that camp of” is an unnecessary descriptor of the full set of “politicians”.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3790 on: November 25, 2019, 01:37:02 PM »
i think sanders is much more honest in terms of saying what he believes to be true rather than what he believes voters want to hear.  i think biden is somewhat more honest in those same terms. (and warren somewhat more honest than buttigieg if i were to continue ranking them).

i don't think all politicians are equally mendacious.  that is lazy and silly.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3791 on: November 25, 2019, 01:39:57 PM »
I fully support moderates lying their asses off to bilk progressive voters into giving them the democratic nomination.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3792 on: November 25, 2019, 02:24:58 PM »
The usual flailing about.  Liz sent her kid to a private school or a really good well funded public school in a zip code where the average adjusted gross income is nearly $100k and the partial feeder zips are higher. 

Only we can protect our liars (LibBot Nation).

No choice for you! (Liz Warren)

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3793 on: November 25, 2019, 03:09:40 PM »
the 538 polling average still isn't out, but silver tweeted results from the unreleased average.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1199070110536912896

for comparison, the rcp average is currently:

biden 29.8
sanders 19.3
warren 18.5
buttigieg 7.8
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3794 on: November 25, 2019, 03:13:16 PM »
StinkyPete is my guy. How's he doing?
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3796 on: November 25, 2019, 04:45:48 PM »
The usual flailing about.  Liz sent her kid to a private school or a really good well funded public school in a zip code where the average adjusted gross income is nearly $100k and the partial feeder zips are higher. 

Only we can protect our liars (LibBot Nation).

No choice for you! (Liz Warren)

 :ROFL:

It's okay to admit that you don't understand demographics in the United States.


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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3798 on: November 26, 2019, 07:42:31 AM »
Mayor Pete is trending this morning  :Ugh:

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #3799 on: November 26, 2019, 08:51:30 AM »
Mayor Pete is trending this morning  :Ugh:

I think he'd irl lose to trump, which is an incredible feat only one other person I can think of could pull off