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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1075 on: March 23, 2019, 07:23:33 PM »
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Some of Buttigieg’s ideas are un­or­tho­dox, though he’s not alone in the Democratic field in that regard. He is outspoken about his desire to abolish the electoral college, for example, and has suggested a Supreme Court composed of 15 justices, including five who would be appointed by the other 10. Both ideas would probably require a constitutional amendment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pete-buttigieg-the-young-and-openly-gay-midwest-mayor-finds-a-voice-in-crowded-democratic-presidential-field/2019/03/16/839f4f3c-474c-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6713f4e53ce5


i'm sure you can find video of him saying it or something like that, if you want something first hand.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1076 on: March 23, 2019, 07:39:19 PM »
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KK, post your candidate!


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Who do I want to win?

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just whenever. it's not like we're irl friends or anything.

Sorry, been interacting with our country's fantastic health care system. Bronchitis for sonofkk no. 1.

I honestly have not gone super in depth on candidate policy platforms yet.  Most candidates, other than Bernie, don't even have much beyond vague statements and the only candidate that has a comprehensive platform is Andrew Yang (who now is going to debate Ben Shapiro on circumcision?) and his platform is some good concepts (UBI, Free College) sprinkled in with half-baked tech-bro garbage
(Automatic Sunsetting of all laws???, Self-driving vehicles, "Create Department of Attention Economy", create an app to encourage volunteering, outlaw circumcision??).

I think Bernie is the most committed on stuff that will matter to me--Pro-Family, Pro-Education policies:
Medicare 4 ALL, free college (my kids probably won't qualify, but will increase enrollments at schools like K-State),
child care/early childhood education (my kids will be too old, but it is a really meaningful policy that will make a big difference)
Climate change (my grandkids are going to be War Boys)

I also think Bernie will be the best on foreign policy because he has so few pressure points. Are the Israeli's really going to call him anti-Semitic? Do you think he cares if he gets called a commie by the generals when he closes some bases or tries to rein in spending on the military? We could use with a lot less empire and Bernie seems the most committed to that idea.

I like Warren, I just think she is probably less good on each individual issue, has less of a movement behind her to advance the policy agenda.

Now, I honestly think that Bernie's agenda would be suffocated by McConnell and would stall out.  But he would put the choices in stark relief and beat a drum that would give the American people a clear choice about what is actually going on.  I can't say whether that would get the job done (I don't think it would in the short term), but it would clearly advance the ball. We went from a weak voiced defense of Obamacare under Hillary to now demanding Medicare 4 All in 4 years. So who knows?

I am interested in Boot-edge-edge, I don't think I've heard enough about his actual policies other than he is a "good guy" and very bright.

I think the rest of the bunch are all likely to massively disappoint in terms of even bothering to pushing for any reforms.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1077 on: March 23, 2019, 07:43:36 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1078 on: March 24, 2019, 12:01:14 PM »
Much like sys has Beto-brain, Booker has Senate brain.  JFC

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1109823172017381378
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1079 on: March 24, 2019, 01:02:19 PM »
Pete being criticized for not being divisive enough.

https://twitter.com/charlesppierce/status/1109834047432417280?s=21.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1080 on: March 24, 2019, 01:04:28 PM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 23, 2019, 07:43:36 PM
https://twitter.com/zachheltzel/status/1109500646787432449?s=19
This is a really great tweet. Seriously though, how many languages does Pete speak?

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1081 on: March 24, 2019, 01:09:02 PM »
7? I think
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1082 on: March 24, 2019, 01:09:50 PM »
I've really taken a shining to Polyglot Pete (TM)

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1083 on: March 24, 2019, 01:17:24 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1084 on: March 24, 2019, 01:21:19 PM »
Pure name recognition, at this point.

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1085 on: March 24, 2019, 01:26:13 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1086 on: March 24, 2019, 01:27:52 PM »
Quote from: Spracne on March 24, 2019, 01:21:19 PM
Pure name recognition, at this point.

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mostly.  for the non-biden/sanders candidates, i also suspect the order in which they are presented matters.  there are too many candidates for good phone interview polls.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1087 on: March 24, 2019, 01:52:56 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1088 on: March 24, 2019, 01:55:00 PM »
Go Pete, Go!

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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1089 on: March 24, 2019, 02:07:31 PM »
The petenomenon
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1090 on: March 24, 2019, 02:08:26 PM »
#TeamComPETE
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1091 on: March 24, 2019, 02:11:23 PM »
probably a timely example of my comment above about presentation order.  buttigieg was #1, harris was #2.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1109893292135714816
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1092 on: March 24, 2019, 02:14:38 PM »
sanders was 3rd and warren 4th, btw.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1093 on: March 24, 2019, 04:19:28 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1094 on: March 24, 2019, 08:48:30 PM »
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1095 on: March 24, 2019, 09:23:52 PM »
Has anyone asked Beto if he still favors raising the retirement age for Social Security?
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1096 on: March 24, 2019, 10:22:16 PM »
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LOL, real thought provoking stuff there

you seem to think there are other candidates saying this.  there aren't (afaik, at least not the major candidates).
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1097 on: March 24, 2019, 10:25:03 PM »
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 24, 2019, 09:23:52 PM
Has anyone asked Beto if he still favors raising the retirement age for Social Security?

https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1108485799585243138
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1098 on: March 24, 2019, 10:43:13 PM »
Quote from: sys on March 24, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on March 24, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
LOL, real thought provoking stuff there

you seem to think there are other candidates saying this.  there aren't (afaik, at least not the major candidates).

Jesus Christ, is this real? You're rough ridin' with us, right? None of the other candidates are saying they're opposed to school shootings either.
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Re: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats
« Reply #1099 on: March 24, 2019, 11:02:05 PM »
thinking back, i think gillibrand did indicate an openness to consider removing existing barriers on the border.  so that's two.  pretty sure no one else has.  i know when harris was pressed on it she was a hard no and talked up a bunch of trump reinforcing crap about border security.

please do link me up if there are other candidates pushing back on continuing to have a militarized southern border forever.  i'd be very happy to know of them.
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