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Revised 2/7/18 (Battle for 3rd-5th)
« on: January 14, 2018, 12:44:21 AM »
These 4 teams are arguably 5th-8th in B12.

Let's put WV Tech Ou Ku in Tier A
TCU KState Texas Baylor In Tier B
OKSt and ISU Tier C

So if TCU KSU UT and BU can do this to get 9-9...
Go 4-0 vs Tier C
Go 3-3 vs Tier B
go 2-6 vs Tier A


So far....
Vs Tier A =
TCU 0-3 (2 home L)
Ksu 0-3 (2 road L)
Texas 0-1 (home L)
Baylor 0-2 (both road L)

Tier B=
TCU 1-1 (2 road)
Ksu 0-0
Texas 1-1 ( 1 home 1 road)
Baylor 1-1 (2 home)

Tier C=
TCU 0-0
Ksu 2-0 (1 home 1 road)
Texas 1-1 (1 home 1 road)
Baylor 0-1 (1 road)


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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 01:57:31 AM »
I don't think TCU is in a group with these other teams, they've probably had the toughest conference schedule to this point. If you're going to include UT here you should probably throw OSU in. I don't think they're good but it's perfectly within the realm of possibility that they could finish ahead of K-State, UT, and Baylor. Baylor might not win a road game this year.

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 05:05:19 AM »
very true, Tcu is the best of those 4. I even told  FAN that they were clearly 5th on the eye test.

I put them in the mix (with Tier B) because although they have a road win vs Tier B, they are 0-3 with 2 home losses vs Tier A.   I'd be shocked if they don't finish 5th or at least 6th....but they got work to do to be in Tier A.

Ku is the only Tier A team that doesn't have a win over a fellow Tier A team, but they do have 2 road Wins over Tier B teams.  No Tier A team has lost to a B or C team either.

Ok St at 2-3 should get consideration for Tier B.  For now, I'm gonna keep them in Tier C.  That could change.  Of their next 6 conference games, they get Baylor twice and 3 Tier A teams. 

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 07:18:23 AM »
I hope we do not get wore down and go into a swoon like last year.  Texas and Baylor have big post players that will give us fits.  I am concerned Weber may lose it after his blow up at the refs and he said he was playing for his job. 

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 09:24:25 PM »
Kstate 4-3 = 1-3 vs Tier A. 1-0 vs Tier B. 2-0 vs Tier C.
Only 4 on last 11 games vs Tier A. 

Texas 3-4 =  1-2 vs Tier A. 1-1 vs Tier B. 1-1 vs C.

TCU 2-5 = 0-3 vs Tier A. 1-2 vs Tier B. 1-0 vs C.
 Still have 5 games vs Tier A, 3 of those on road.

Baylor 2-5 = 0-3 vs Tier A. 1-1 vs B. 1-1 vs C.
Home loss to B, road loss to C. No big Wins

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 09:33:32 PM »
Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 09:45:53 PM »
baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks


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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 09:46:49 PM »
Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?

Absolutely.  I think I'm just still doing the math for getting 5th... Because sometimes I get excited, ahead of myself thinking about more..  and then Boom, we have a letdown

A win at Baylor on Monday...and I think we all can start having thoughts like what you just posted

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 09:55:03 PM »
baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks

Maybe. But outside of the OK St game, Baylor in 6 other league games is putting up 0.95 PPP and 43.1 eFG on offense, plus about -5.0% on TO margain.  #ExtremelyBeatable

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 09:55:26 PM »
Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?

with stokes finally out of the picture, there's no reason not to dream big.
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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 10:08:57 PM »
baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2018, 01:41:43 AM »
Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?

with stokes finally out of the picture, there's no reason not to dream big.

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2018, 10:03:30 AM »
A healthy Stokes last night would have made that a much easier game for us.  Brown would have been able to rest a little.  Brown would not have had to play point guard the entire game.   Stokes on ball defense is good enough he could have guarded Robinson some and given Brown a little more rest. 

Brown, Stokes and Diarra made a really good rotation at guard and also let us go small more often so Claws get some rest with Mawien playing center. 

Very positive development to have Stokes in a couple of weeks and still have a lot of the offense flowing through Claws. 

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2018, 02:31:06 PM »
Other than @WVU and maybe @OU, I dont see a game on the schedule we shouldn't be able to win.

BU x2.  Suck
UT x2.  Suck
ISU @home.  Suck
TTU @home  Suddenly suck
Ku @home.  Suck
@OSU. Suck
@TCU. Gross
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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2018, 03:10:09 PM »
ou is a suddenly suck

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2018, 03:32:46 PM »
so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %


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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2018, 03:55:24 PM »
so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %

Maybe, maybe not. Likely top 3 though. Leading after nearly 40% of the schedule doesn't seem like a fluke to me.

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2018, 05:50:43 PM »
I really thought Shaka would completely dominate at Texas, maybe he still will but the early results have been surprising. 
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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2018, 05:54:13 PM »
I really thought Shaka would completely dominate at Texas, maybe he still will but the early results have been surprising.

He wasn't really dominant at VCU, but he had nice tournament runs. Never won a conference regular season title in 6 seasons.

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2018, 05:58:32 PM »
Was your expectation that he would be a middle of the pack team in year 3?  They don't seem any better right now than with Barnes. I suppose my expectations were too high initially.
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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2018, 06:09:23 PM »
he gets out coached on a regular basis and is in over his head when it comes to the coaching part of coaching


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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2018, 06:13:37 PM »
so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %

Maybe, maybe not. Likely top 3 though. Leading after nearly 40% of the schedule doesn't seem like a fluke to me.

17|18:  .488, .372

16|17:  .461, .362
15|16:  .429, .300
14|15:  .433, .335
13|14:  .434, .331
12|13:  .436, .362



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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2018, 06:45:13 PM »
oscar's teams seem to have stamina issues.

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2018, 07:27:05 PM »
^you say this after barry played 40 and wade 39?

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Re: Tcu-KState-Texas-Baylor (battle for 5th/6th)
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2018, 07:52:52 PM »
^you say this after barry played 40 and wade 39?
Look at the annual stats. The % falls per those posted