is saturday winnable? (WVU edition)

[420seriouscat69]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

Remember McGruders final possession at Baylor that helped win the big 12 title?

[420seriouscat69]

also, you honestly think oscar told him to walk up the court and chuck a tested 3? Just trying to see how butthurt you are about all things oscar to honestly believe that.

[8manpick]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

May as well have put it in Diarra's hands then.  He'll end up as our best guard since Pullen when his career is over.  I know it's too soon to do that but he was clearly up for the big moments.

[michigancat]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

[pissclams]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

come on man

[MakeItRain]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

Rusty, what exactly do you think a screen and roll/pop is designed to do?

Also I don't know what you and 'clams are up in arms about, I presented two opportunities as to why a normally reliable player froze up when he had the ball in his hands. Neither of us are in his head, I don't know how you can be definitive as to why he froze.

[michigancat]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

Rusty, what exactly do you think a screen and roll/pop is designed to do?

Also I don't know what you and 'clams are up in arms about, I presented two opportunities as to why a normally reliable player froze up when he had the ball in his hands. Neither of us are in his head, I don't know how you can be definitive as to why he froze.

This particular play was designed to get a three for Wade.

I just think your statement on Brown was just dumb given other plays immediately proceeding the play in question

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

His plays are always too complicated at the end of games. All you need is one screen, maybe one pass, and a shot. And show some rough ridin' urgency

[EMAWzifried]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

Rusty, what exactly do you think a screen and roll/pop is designed to do?

Also I don't know what you and 'clams are up in arms about, I presented two opportunities as to why a normally reliable player froze up when he had the ball in his hands. Neither of us are in his head, I don't know how you can be definitive as to why he froze.

This particular play was designed to get a three for Wade.

I just think your statement on Brown was just dumb given other plays immediately proceeding the play in question

When you're down by one why the hell would he want to shoot a 3 instead of go to the basket?

[Powercat Posse]

When KState cleared out right side and put 3 guys on the left, Vick stayed in the lane to help in case of a drive.  If Barry came off screen hard and went to the rim, he may have had Vick and Azubuike to contend with.  But it left the pop out by Wade pretty open because there was no weakside help and Doke was slow in getting back to Dean

I think ku was gonna force us to shoot a jumper. Even if we spread our 3 guys out (2 on left 1 on right), I think the lane was gonna be clogged quickly with a Barry drive.

I liked the play call. I will take Dean taking the shot, instead of a possible Barry drive and kickout to 1 of the other 3

[cfbandyman]

The only team worse at rebounding in league games than us is KU. So I like that for us.

I didn't want to go so far in my last post to say it, but I really do see ku and k-state as being pretty close to being the same team.

holy crap 

A team that lives and dies by the 3, cant rebound and has little to no depth or presence on the inside? oscar aside, tell me how exactly different they are.

The next informed opinion that troll will give will be the first one, he's an actual idiot.

name calling, sad.

You look super dumb after this game. oscar or no oscar

[Skipper44]

The second oscar saw Bill was leaving Doke in they should have gone 1 - 4 with the ball in Wade’s hand

[pissclams]

The only team worse at rebounding in league games than us is KU. So I like that for us.

I didn't want to go so far in my last post to say it, but I really do see ku and k-state as being pretty close to being the same team.

holy crap 

A team that lives and dies by the 3, cant rebound and has little to no depth or presence on the inside? oscar aside, tell me how exactly different they are.

The next informed opinion that troll will give will be the first one, he's an actual idiot.

name calling, sad.

You look super dumb after this game. oscar or no oscar

#1Cat you guys

[dal9]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

Rusty, what exactly do you think a screen and roll/pop is designed to do?

Also I don't know what you and 'clams are up in arms about, I presented two opportunities as to why a normally reliable player froze up when he had the ball in his hands. Neither of us are in his head, I don't know how you can be definitive as to why he froze.

This particular play was designed to get a three for Wade.

I just think your statement on Brown was just dumb given other plays immediately proceeding the play in question

When you're down by one why the hell would he want to shoot a 3 instead of go to the basket?

cuz you're not going to get a call if hacked on the drive to the basket...that said, i would have spread the floor and let barry drive and then kick if help comes...

[michigancat]

It's my favorite thing to laugh at about oscar. He is absolutely awful at final possessions. I'm still LOL'n at his attempt in the NCAA tournament game against La Salle, and that was....six years ago? Jesus Christ. Having Barry lazily walk it up the court and then throw up a contested last-second three was a hilariously bad way to try to win today's game. Color me stunned it didn't work.

You actually think it was planned for Barry to do that? LOL. I'll ask you and everyone else, what should have been called there?

spread the court, drive and crash the boards. I thought that was obvious to everyone in the world

sure but it starts with getting into your set and you can't do that at 4 seconds and expect to get a good shot let alone a put back.  you can't walk the ball up the rough ridin' floor like it's the start of the rough ridin' game.

I mean I would think a coach would have told them to be cognizant of the time remaining in the timeout or like practiced a similar situation in practice or something

That's the deal. The play call was the right one. The issue is that we don't operate in a manner that Barry would be comfortable going quickly there.

I'll be critical of oscar for this but I'll also leave as a possibility that Barry was prepared for this but he got tight because he was playing KU in AFH and the moment was too big for him.

I disagree that it was the right call given how successful we were attacking off the dribble in the second half.

I also disagree the moment was too big for him, I mean he'd just made a three point play and had a drive lead to an offensive rebound the two previous possessions. That's actually a pretty asinine suggestion.

Rusty, what exactly do you think a screen and roll/pop is designed to do?

Also I don't know what you and 'clams are up in arms about, I presented two opportunities as to why a normally reliable player froze up when he had the ball in his hands. Neither of us are in his head, I don't know how you can be definitive as to why he froze.

This particular play was designed to get a three for Wade.

I just think your statement on Brown was just dumb given other plays immediately proceeding the play in question

When you're down by one why the hell would he want to shoot a 3 instead of go to the basket?

cuz you're not going to get a call if hacked on the drive to the basket...that said, i would have spread the floor and let barry drive and then kick if help comes...

We drew fouls the two previous possessions, one on a drive and one on a putback created by a drive

[dal9]

^yeah, i'm just saying what the argument against driving is...not sure i necessarily would go for jumper...

[kso_FAN]

Rusty, I like your point. I do think KU's defense would have been different, but Barry had some big drives late.

Again, not racing the ball to me was the key.

[The Big Train]

Really good article. oscar is a loser, plain and simple.

https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/952304107557212163

[mocat]

But we almost won! Frank never almost won in lawrence. Advantage: oscar

[420seriouscat69]

But we almost won! Frank never almost won in lawrence. Advantage: oscar

chodecat doesn't understand K-State history in that building ever since he got passed up by Mizzou so this loser response makes sense.

[michigancat]

Rusty, I like your point. I do think KU's defense would have been different, but Barry had some big drives late.

Again, not racing the ball to me was the key.

Of course walking the ball up was the worst part. Another thing that hasn't been discussed is how slow Wade is with the ball. His drives are almost always methodically feeling out the defense and he's even pretty show in a catch and shoot. (Those aren't really criticisms of Wade, just using him in that particular situation.)

[420seriouscat69]

Frank is going to miss the tourney 6 out of 7 years there now.

[slackcat]

His plays are always too complicated at the end of games. All you need is one screen, maybe one pass, and a shot. And show some rough ridin' urgency

This.

Every good coach has plays for just this situation and they're practiced, just so happens Oscar is not a good coach.

[kso_FAN]

This play seemed pretty simple to me. Two man, pick and pop, then rescreen if its not there.

Problem is, usually it's Kam running the point, not Barry, so he probably hasn't practiced it a bunch. Call it a an excuse if you want, don't @ me.

[mocat]

But we almost won! Frank never almost won in lawrence. Advantage: oscar

chodecat doesn't understand K-State history in that building ever since he got passed up by Mizzou so this loser response makes sense.

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