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a lot of the posts in this thread are from people who disagree with the thread’s premise. essentially those posts belong to my thread.
Are there any good head coaches that were neither an OC or DC before they became a head coach, besides Dabo Swinney and Urban Meyer?
Quote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 30, 2017, 05:13:01 PMAre there any good head coaches that were neither an OC or DC before they became a head coach, besides Dabo Swinney and Urban Meyer? P.J. Fleck
Wasn't beatty a wr coach???
I appreciate the magnitude of what Bill has done just fine.
Jim and john Harbaugh.Interestingly john was a special teams coordinator for nearly 20 years before being named head coach of the ravens
Jim Tressel and Art Briles
Quote from: Dlew12 on November 29, 2017, 04:19:50 PMQuote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 27, 2017, 05:18:37 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 05:12:22 PMI just want Bill to leave and we quickly hire someone so this incredibly worn out debate can finally end. I think I've now reached my limit of reading, typing, and saying the same crap repackaged 75 different ways.I've not had the debate so this is all new to me. It's a very difficult debate to have with persons that don't appreciate the magnitude of what Bill has done here at KState. I can understand now why there are so many posters on goEMAW that castigate him. He's not above questioning but he's close The nail was hit on the head earlier. A special teams coordinator, hell, even Saban's or Meyer's special teams coordinator, should not be promoted to head coach. While he's done a great job, Sean hasn't proven anything except that he can do some good things with a return game. Tim Tibesar did some good things with the return game, then immediately flopped when he was promoted to a position with more responsibility.I want someone who has had success at managing a unit that's on the field more than 10 times a game.Jesus Christ, this. How do so many of our tuckiest fans not realize that being a successful Special Teams OC is undoubtedly WAAAAAAY easier -- and carries significantly less weight -- than being a successful OC or DC?
Quote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 27, 2017, 05:18:37 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 05:12:22 PMI just want Bill to leave and we quickly hire someone so this incredibly worn out debate can finally end. I think I've now reached my limit of reading, typing, and saying the same crap repackaged 75 different ways.I've not had the debate so this is all new to me. It's a very difficult debate to have with persons that don't appreciate the magnitude of what Bill has done here at KState. I can understand now why there are so many posters on goEMAW that castigate him. He's not above questioning but he's close The nail was hit on the head earlier. A special teams coordinator, hell, even Saban's or Meyer's special teams coordinator, should not be promoted to head coach. While he's done a great job, Sean hasn't proven anything except that he can do some good things with a return game. Tim Tibesar did some good things with the return game, then immediately flopped when he was promoted to a position with more responsibility.I want someone who has had success at managing a unit that's on the field more than 10 times a game.
Quote from: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 05:12:22 PMI just want Bill to leave and we quickly hire someone so this incredibly worn out debate can finally end. I think I've now reached my limit of reading, typing, and saying the same crap repackaged 75 different ways.I've not had the debate so this is all new to me. It's a very difficult debate to have with persons that don't appreciate the magnitude of what Bill has done here at KState. I can understand now why there are so many posters on goEMAW that castigate him. He's not above questioning but he's close
I just want Bill to leave and we quickly hire someone so this incredibly worn out debate can finally end. I think I've now reached my limit of reading, typing, and saying the same crap repackaged 75 different ways.
Quote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 30, 2017, 10:09:44 PMJim and john Harbaugh.Interestingly john was a special teams coordinator for nearly 20 years before being named head coach of the ravensQuote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 30, 2017, 10:19:22 PMJim Tressel and Art Briles There are a lot of shitty coaches without coordinator experience, those guys don't know crap about football.
Quote from: MakeItRain on November 30, 2017, 10:22:32 PMQuote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 30, 2017, 10:09:44 PMJim and john Harbaugh.Interestingly john was a special teams coordinator for nearly 20 years before being named head coach of the ravensQuote from: Whisker Biscuit on November 30, 2017, 10:19:22 PMJim Tressel and Art Briles There are a lot of shitty coaches without coordinator experience, those guys don't know crap about football.Yes I’m simply trying to understand whether being an OC or DC is a prerequisite to quality head coaching
