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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1001 on: December 18, 2017, 06:03:43 PM »
So, like, the propaganda machine from Trumps Twitter is all true?  We are not being misinformed?

Wait.... did you just compare the claims of a politician to the claims of a supposedly neutral media?
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1002 on: December 18, 2017, 06:06:19 PM »
So, like, the propaganda machine from Trumps Twitter is all true?  We are not being misinformed?

Wait.... did you just compare the claims of a politician to the claims of a supposedly neutral media?

The politician is the president of the United States, who isn’t just any politician.  Secondly it’s a free press.  Just because you don’t like what they say and your feelings are hurt doesn’t make them wrong.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1003 on: December 18, 2017, 08:14:12 PM »
everyone who believes in supply-side economics has been misinformed

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1004 on: December 18, 2017, 09:11:06 PM »
NYT app thing says I'm saving $5k in taxes next year. :Woot:
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1005 on: December 18, 2017, 09:14:03 PM »
So, like, the propaganda machine from Trumps Twitter is all true?  We are not being misinformed?

The poll says half of Americans think their taxes are going up under the plan, which is egregiously inaccurate. That's how misinformed the public is by the media (bc Don sure as crap isn't saying that)
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1006 on: December 18, 2017, 09:18:10 PM »
So, like, the propaganda machine from Trumps Twitter is all true?  We are not being misinformed?

The poll says half of Americans think their taxes are going up under the plan, which is egregiously inaccurate. That's how misinformed the public is by the media (bc Don sure as crap isn't saying that)

Exactly where is the cutoff? How many people taxes are going up? I’m sure you have studied the plan and compared and contrasted with the CBO results? What percentage of people are misinformed?

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1007 on: December 18, 2017, 09:21:25 PM »
I just want to clear this up FSD. Wouldn’t want you spreading misinformation based on a lack of facts or anything.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1008 on: December 18, 2017, 09:43:15 PM »
That's a great example of how the media is misinforming the public.

I honestly can't believe you went back to that graphic after getting humiliated for referencing it and defending it weeks back itt. The gross misrepresentations were explained to you in great detail at that time. Apparently you learned nothing, which is a recurring theme.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1009 on: December 18, 2017, 09:59:38 PM »
I would be totally fine with that graphic at first glimpse.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1010 on: December 18, 2017, 10:09:30 PM »
That's a great example of how the media is misinforming the public.

I honestly can't believe you went back to that graphic after getting humiliated for referencing it and defending it weeks back itt. The gross misrepresentations were explained to you in great detail at that time. Apparently you learned nothing, which is a recurring theme.

Oh?  I don’t remember factual statements cementing the 50% mark. Perhaps you have them now and can share? This being the second time I have asked to prove me wrong.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1011 on: December 18, 2017, 10:29:05 PM »
Do you actually believe half of American's income tax liability will go up as a result of this bill?

Simple arithmetic alone belies that assertion.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1012 on: December 18, 2017, 10:34:15 PM »
Serious non-partisan question:  Those projected 2027 numbers are nonsense, correct?  My assumption is each successive majority party will enact a different version of "tax reform" as they get elected and the conditions in our economy and demographics change.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1013 on: December 18, 2017, 10:37:34 PM »
Serious non-partisan question:  Those projected 2027 numbers are nonsense, correct?  My assumption is each successive majority party will enact a different version of "tax reform" as they get elected and the conditions in our economy and demographics change.

If they dont, they'll be raising taxes on the poor.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1014 on: December 18, 2017, 10:39:00 PM »
Serious non-partisan question:  Those projected 2027 numbers are nonsense, correct?  My assumption is each successive majority party will enact a different version of "tax reform" as they get elected and the conditions in our economy and demographics change.

If they dont, they'll be raising taxes on the poor.

If that graphic is right, no doubt

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1015 on: December 18, 2017, 10:43:05 PM »
Serious non-partisan question:  Those projected 2027 numbers are nonsense, correct?  My assumption is each successive majority party will enact a different version of "tax reform" as they get elected and the conditions in our economy and demographics change.

i would be very surprised if the democrats don't raise taxes on the rich & pass throughs & corps in 2020 if they are able.


longer term, eventually, an increase in tax revenue is inevitable.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1016 on: December 18, 2017, 11:36:56 PM »
Serious non-partisan question:  Those projected 2027 numbers are nonsense, correct?  My assumption is each successive majority party will enact a different version of "tax reform" as they get elected and the conditions in our economy and demographics change.

i would be very surprised if the democrats don't raise taxes on the rich & pass throughs & corps in 2020 if they are able.


longer term, eventually, an increase in tax revenue is inevitable.

Yeah the 2027 projection is dumb for lots of reasons, the only reason it is being done is to game the CBO. Bush tax cuts did the same thing.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1017 on: December 19, 2017, 06:34:39 AM »
https://twitter.com/MonmouthPoll/status/942786886673817600

Which just goes to show how effective the Dem propaganda has been. If you're a liberal, are you happy that people are so misinformed?

Yes, very difficult for Republicans to get their message out when they control congress and the WH.

The truth is, even if the Democrats are just spinning lies in this case, Republicans have had such a hard time refuting it because they came into this whole thing without any good evidence that it would work. They didn’t even let anyone else look at the thing until they were voting on it. That’s why they’ve been so impotent in their response.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1018 on: December 19, 2017, 07:01:51 AM »
Corporate welfare


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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1019 on: December 19, 2017, 08:14:02 AM »
Can we get some examples of the media misinforming the public ?

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1020 on: December 19, 2017, 08:51:20 AM »
Hillary did it.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1022 on: December 19, 2017, 09:15:42 AM »
Selfish old people don’t want this country to bankrupt itself. SMDH.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1023 on: December 19, 2017, 09:15:53 AM »
LMAO

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1024 on: December 19, 2017, 04:21:25 PM »
Really going to miss making fun of Dems and their "just numbers" . . . "just money" routine vis-a-vis budgets and deficits.

Dems are so full of zeal and verve on the budget and deficits now!!