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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #450 on: November 21, 2017, 11:46:59 AM »
who doesn't pay taxes?

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« Reply #451 on: November 21, 2017, 12:21:56 PM »
The commentary ITT provides all the evidence I need to know that people who don't pay taxes not only shouldn't be allowed to decide what others pay in taces, but also why people who don't pay taxes should not be allowed to vote.  You have non-stakeholders voting to take money from one class amd give it to themselves.

People don’t vote to either increase or decrease taxes. If by “non-stakeholders” you are referring to congress then the same is true for all legislation.

Idk about people who don’t pay taxes, but I might support a voting ban of people who don’t even have a rudimentary understanding of how our government works.

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« Reply #452 on: November 21, 2017, 01:50:55 PM »
The commentary ITT provides all the evidence I need to know that people who don't pay taxes not only shouldn't be allowed to decide what others pay in taces, but also why people who don't pay taxes should not be allowed to vote.  You have non-stakeholders voting to take money from one class amd give it to themselves.

People don’t vote to either increase or decrease taxes. If by “non-stakeholders” you are referring to congress then the same is true for all legislation.

Idk about people who don’t pay taxes, but I might support a voting ban of people who don’t even have a rudimentary understanding of how our government works.

Pretty sure FSD understands we have a representative republic whereby people don't vote directly on issues but instead vote for representatives - who they tend to select based upon how those representatives will vote. So setting aside your cute but stupid bullshit, how about you address the underlying point?
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« Reply #453 on: November 21, 2017, 01:57:32 PM »
FSD did not have a point, just a failure to understand how things work. And I defy you to find someone in America who doesn’t pay taxes. He’s just conflating all tax with federal income tax.

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« Reply #454 on: November 21, 2017, 02:05:14 PM »
I'm a fiscal conservative and registered republican. I want taxes cut. I want spending cut. I want the deficit reduced. I don't like this plan because it doesn't do any of those things.

Except the first thing. It cuts taxes for the vast majority of people and businesses. And if you're saying you can't support tax cuts unless it's packaged in a bill that cuts spending, you're essentially saying you don't support tax cuts. Take what we can get, and elect more conservatives to office if you want any chance of cutting spending.

Psh, they'll just dump all that extra money in the military, don't give me that bullshit.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #455 on: November 21, 2017, 02:24:39 PM »
Love when fsd has a wet lunch
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« Reply #456 on: November 21, 2017, 02:28:27 PM »
It's like FSD pops in and says, "Hey, I've got a couple train tickets to Crazytown. Who's with me!?" And then no one ever is. And you wonder if he realizes that no one ever is.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #457 on: November 21, 2017, 02:42:26 PM »
The commentary ITT provides all the evidence I need to know that people who don't pay taxes not only shouldn't be allowed to decide what others pay in taces, but also why people who don't pay taxes should not be allowed to vote.  You have non-stakeholders voting to take money from one class amd give it to themselves.

People don’t vote to either increase or decrease taxes. If by “non-stakeholders” you are referring to congress then the same is true for all legislation.

Idk about people who don’t pay taxes, but I might support a voting ban of people who don’t even have a rudimentary understanding of how our government works.

Pretty sure FSD understands we have a representative republic whereby people don't vote directly on issues but instead vote for representatives - who they tend to select based upon how those representatives will vote. So setting aside your cute but stupid bullshit, how about you address the underlying point?

They won't ever address the point. Only a lunatic would argue it's fair that 50% pay nothing and generally get money in return while 1% pay half and 10% pay nearly the entire balance.
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« Reply #458 on: November 21, 2017, 02:43:29 PM »
FSD did not have a point, just a failure to understand how things work. And I defy you to find someone in America who doesn’t pay taxes. He’s just conflating all tax with federal income tax.

Why would I be talking about all taxes in the federal income tax reform thread????  Hmmm, dipshit?
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #459 on: November 21, 2017, 02:46:40 PM »
Keep in mind, these are the crazies who think Exxon is covering up global warming and Haliburton orchestrated 9/11, and are batshit furious Donald Trump probably paid no income taxes during certain years.

Is there anything more fundamentally unfair than the federal income tax system in its current state?
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #460 on: November 21, 2017, 03:02:07 PM »
Does fsd understand that the people who pay lots of money in taxes do so because they make lots of money? It's not just randomly assigned.

Maybe he's one of the people not paying taxes and that's why he doesn't understand them  :dunno:
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« Reply #461 on: November 21, 2017, 03:06:02 PM »
9/11 truthers were much more from the right

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« Reply #462 on: November 21, 2017, 03:12:57 PM »
Does fsd understand that the people who pay lots of money in taxes do so because they make lots of money? It's not just randomly assigned.

Maybe he's one of the people not paying taxes and that's why he doesn't understand them  :dunno:

Of course the pay more. It's the fact that they pay a much higher rate that's the issue.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #463 on: November 21, 2017, 03:19:20 PM »
FSD did not have a point, just a failure to understand how things work. And I defy you to find someone in America who doesn’t pay taxes. He’s just conflating all tax with federal income tax.

You are grasping at technicalities to avoid the larger point. Just about everyone pays some tax, usually at least in the form of sales tax. But it's more than a little annoying to hear some bad person who pays an effective FIT rate near zero bitching about how some guy paying 15% or more doesn't deserve a tax cut. There are net makers and net takers in this society and the fact that they both get an equal voice in our governance leads one direction.

Unless you're paying FIT, please: STFU about somebody else getting to keep a little more of their money. That is all.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #464 on: November 21, 2017, 03:26:49 PM »
Oh, you guys are just mad at strawmen, I should have known
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #465 on: November 21, 2017, 03:34:28 PM »
Does fsd understand that the people who pay lots of money in taxes do so because they make lots of money? It's not just randomly assigned.

Maybe he's one of the people not paying taxes and that's why he doesn't understand them  :dunno:

Of course the pay more. It's the fact that they pay a much higher rate that's the issue.

It goes so far beyond that. People making the same amount of money pay widely varying rates.

The libtarded do not understand math at all, but even they can't deny that the fed income tax code is an absurd grab bag of special interests and social engineering. Nevermind that the half of society using the govt the most doesn't contribute one cent (extremely unfair).
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« Reply #467 on: November 21, 2017, 03:43:48 PM »
Keep punching at the air fsd
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #468 on: November 21, 2017, 04:06:12 PM »
FSD: people who don’t pay tax shouldn’t get a vote on how taxes work

Catastrophe: everyone does pay tax, and no one gets a vote on specific policy decisions like tax structure

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #469 on: November 21, 2017, 05:00:15 PM »
Nevermind that the half of society using the govt the most doesn't contribute one cent (extremely unfair).

this portion is extremely arguable

YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT!!!!!

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« Reply #470 on: November 21, 2017, 05:26:38 PM »
Nevermind that the half of society using the govt the most doesn't contribute one cent (extremely unfair).

this portion is extremely arguable

YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT!!!!!

Man I would dearly love if the Dems ran on this message in 2020. I didn't get enough play when Obama trotted it out (and then quickly backpeddled) in 2012. It just so perfectly sums up the socialist mindset of the liberal left.
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« Reply #471 on: November 21, 2017, 05:55:35 PM »
Keep in mind that kdub and his wife are both lawyers so 100% of his families income is reliant on government operations
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« Reply #472 on: November 21, 2017, 05:55:54 PM »
Nevermind that the half of society using the govt the most doesn't contribute one cent (extremely unfair).

this portion is extremely arguable

YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT!!!!!

Man I would dearly love if the Dems ran on this message in 2020. I didn't get enough play when Obama trotted it out (and then quickly backpeddled) in 2012. It just so perfectly sums up the socialist mindset of the liberal left.

Psh, like wanting good infrastructure makes people raging socialists. It was a bad sound bite and he knew it immediately. JFC

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #473 on: November 21, 2017, 06:01:07 PM »
Keep in mind that kdub and his wife are both lawyers so 100% of his families income is reliant on government operations

Lawyer and a PA. That'd be scary being married to a lawyer.
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« Reply #474 on: November 21, 2017, 06:02:12 PM »
Nevermind that the half of society using the govt the most doesn't contribute one cent (extremely unfair).

this portion is extremely arguable

YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT!!!!!

Man I would dearly love if the Dems ran on this message in 2020. I didn't get enough play when Obama trotted it out (and then quickly backpeddled) in 2012. It just so perfectly sums up the socialist mindset of the liberal left.

Psh, like wanting good infrastructure makes people raging socialists. It was a bad sound bite and he knew it immediately. JFC

:lol: Thats a pretty generous take.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.