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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1550 on: January 28, 2019, 09:05:23 PM »
I don't know how much do we spend on illegals?
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1551 on: January 28, 2019, 09:08:43 PM »
starving the machine is good policy in my estimation, better yet would be appropriating based on available revenue.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1552 on: January 28, 2019, 10:23:06 PM »
Still waiting on tax documents :frown:

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1553 on: January 29, 2019, 07:41:57 AM »
I thought we all understood (even kdub) that he was just blowing smoke? He doesn't really care about spending, he just wants his money.

Stating he can't do anything until this mythical ambiguous point where the govt has cut enough spending (in his mind) then he would love to pay more taxes. Lol.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1554 on: January 29, 2019, 07:50:27 AM »
I thought we all understood (even kdub) that he was just blowing smoke? He doesn't really care about spending, he just wants his money.

Stating he can't do anything until this mythical ambiguous point where the govt has cut enough spending (in his mind) then he would love to pay more taxes. Lol.

It's really not even about money. People like that just like to complain and feel victimized.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1555 on: January 29, 2019, 08:22:07 AM »
I don't know how much do we spend on illegals?

We make money off of them.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1556 on: January 29, 2019, 08:38:35 AM »
I thought we all understood (even kdub) that he was just blowing smoke? He doesn't really care about spending, he just wants his money.

Stating he can't do anything until this mythical ambiguous point where the govt has cut enough spending (in his mind) then he would love to pay more taxes. Lol.

It's really not even about money. People like that just like to complain and feel victimized.

And typically use more of the public resources those taxes go towards.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1557 on: January 29, 2019, 08:50:20 AM »
Paying government employees not to work for a month seems like a big waste of taxpayer money. 

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1558 on: January 29, 2019, 09:18:14 AM »
I thought we all understood (even kdub) that he was just blowing smoke? He doesn't really care about spending, he just wants his money.

Stating he can't do anything until this mythical ambiguous point where the govt has cut enough spending (in his mind) then he would love to pay more taxes. Lol.

I definitely care about our deficits, the national debt, and most importantly, the size of government associated with the spending that drives our deficits. I was critical of it under Obama, and I'm critical of it now under Trump. You can go back and search the posts. The folks who clearly don't care about our deficits are liberals, who routinely want to spend more, not less, and argue that we can somehow tax our way out of this problem (now there's a myth). So a liberal accusing a fiscal conservative of not caring about deficits is more than a tad ironic.

As for "mythical ambiguous point where the government has cut enough spending," I've been quite unambiguous on that point: balance the budget (which starts with passing a budget). Stop digging the hole deeper, and I would gladly support higher taxes to fill in the hole.

This really isn't that hard to understand. The sniping gets old, fast.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1559 on: January 29, 2019, 09:20:43 AM »
Stop digging the hole deeper, but please continue to reduce revenue.

Lol
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1560 on: January 29, 2019, 09:24:57 AM »
I thought we all understood (even kdub) that he was just blowing smoke? He doesn't really care about spending, he just wants his money.

Stating he can't do anything until this mythical ambiguous point where the govt has cut enough spending (in his mind) then he would love to pay more taxes. Lol.

I definitely care about our deficits, the national debt, and most importantly, the size of government associated with the spending that drives our deficits. I was critical of it under Obama, and I'm critical of it now under Trump. You can go back and search the posts. The folks who clearly don't care about our deficits are liberals, who routinely want to spend more, not less, and argue that we can somehow tax our way out of this problem (now there's a myth). So a liberal accusing a fiscal conservative of not caring about deficits is more than a tad ironic.

As for "mythical ambiguous point where the government has cut enough spending," I've been quite unambiguous on that point: balance the budget (which starts with passing a budget). Stop digging the hole deeper, and I would gladly support higher taxes to fill in the hole.

This really isn't that hard to understand. The sniping gets old, fast.

If anything you just said is remotely true, then surely there is a liberal president you can point to that has actually spent more than Trump is spending.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1561 on: January 29, 2019, 09:45:00 AM »
The deficit should increase at a greater rate when the economy is struggling to help it get going.  The fact that Trump, formerly having owned congress, blew it up so spectacularly during a strong economy is really something.

The irony of fiscal conservatives helping to elect a caricature of opulence for President would be funnier if he wasn't such a eff up. Similar to the irony of Evangelicals deciding Obama wasn't Christian but the guy who pays off a porn star that he mumped while his third wife was pregnant is.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1562 on: January 29, 2019, 09:54:32 AM »
It's not just Trump, either. The last several Democratic presidents have been better on spending than the last several Republican presidents. Once again, it's not really about the money.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1563 on: January 29, 2019, 10:02:10 AM »
sit down yahoo. heh.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1564 on: January 29, 2019, 01:11:53 PM »
The deficit should increase at a greater rate when the economy is struggling to help it get going.  The fact that Trump, formerly having owned congress, blew it up so spectacularly during a strong economy is really something.

i'm half persuaded by the argument that the trump stimulus was actually very well timed.  it's a very intriguing idea, at least.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1566 on: January 29, 2019, 01:23:02 PM »
Good addition to the Taxes thread!
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1567 on: January 29, 2019, 01:23:38 PM »
Yeah, it got bumped.  :curse:

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1568 on: January 29, 2019, 07:41:56 PM »
I am kinda interested in knowing to what extent Schultz strays from liberal orthodoxy. I thought he was a pretty doctrinaire liberal. Maybe he figures he simply has no way to get through the Dem primary because he's too white and rich. He's probably right about that.
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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1569 on: January 29, 2019, 08:09:05 PM »
yes, if there's one thing the dems have shown it's that they will not nominate a white person

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1570 on: January 29, 2019, 08:27:35 PM »
yes, if there's one thing the dems have shown it's that they will not nominate a white person

Well, they will nominate a white person as long as she has enough foreign laundered cash on hand to buy the party.

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Re: Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)
« Reply #1572 on: January 29, 2019, 08:49:04 PM »
has there been a bigger disaster of a political movement than the "tea party"? goodness.

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What % of your income are you willing to pay in state and fed tax?
« Reply #1573 on: January 29, 2019, 08:50:56 PM »
This is for your current level of government
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Re: What % of your income are you willing to pay in state and fed tax?
« Reply #1574 on: January 29, 2019, 08:54:08 PM »
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