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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #975 on: January 03, 2018, 08:29:27 PM »
I’m actually glad UCF is poking the bear on this one. I’m not convinced there was anything they could have done during the regular season to get put in the top 4.  They cannot get into a P5 conference so at best they could have played 1-2 more quality games. Without a legitimate playoff we really are in the same spot we were 100 years ago when everyone just claimed national titles.

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #976 on: January 03, 2018, 08:30:54 PM »
Speaking of which do we have a cool nickname yet for the legendary 1910 Championship Cats?

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« Reply #977 on: January 03, 2018, 09:24:38 PM »
Perfect opportunity for BigXII expansion then poke the SEC bear a little by claiming they’re adding the defending National Champ

Won’t happen but I’m #teamucf if expansion happens

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #978 on: January 03, 2018, 09:50:35 PM »
Let's also not forget it was not long ago at all when the winner of the "national championship" game was not declared national champion.  The system has been and continues to be complete crap.

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #979 on: January 03, 2018, 09:51:55 PM »
Two best teams are playing for the championship game for the third time in three tries of the playoff, so there is tjsy.
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« Reply #980 on: January 03, 2018, 09:59:27 PM »
If Bama wins, it would be the 2nd out of 4 tries that the 4 seed has won it all (the top seed has never won).  If the last team selected can win half the time, why would we assume #5-10 wouldn't be the "best team" if they won it all?

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« Reply #981 on: January 03, 2018, 11:05:34 PM »
If Bama wins, it would be the 2nd out of 4 tries that the 4 seed has won it all (the top seed has never won).  If the last team selected can win half the time, why would we assume #5-10 wouldn't be the "best team" if they won it all?

No one would. I mean look at the big 10, 3 NY6 bowls and they won all 3, and the only one that was won by a TD or less was Penn St-WashU and most of that game Penn St was up by 2+ TDs. Any one of those 3 teams would be serious champ game contenders, I like that we've got a playoff, and I am playing the long con on doing this in baby steps, but until this playoff has all P5 conference champs, the top G5 team and at least 2 at larges then it forever will let a few teams that could go the distance out of it.

And fwiw I'm generally ok with UCF milking this for all they got. Teams like TCU pre Big 12 (2011 Rose Bowl v Wisconsin and played v. Boise St in 2009 Fiesta Bowl but lost), Utah pre Pac 12 (2005 Fiesta and 2009 Sugar v. 12-1 Bama), Boise St (2006, 2009, and 2014 Fiesta Bowls), UCF (2013 Fiesta and obv 2017 Peach bowl), Houston (2015 Peach), have proven themselves capable of winning BCS/NY6 bowls against any other competition, and pretty much successful (Western Michigan, Hawaii, and Northern Illinois are the only to lose a BCS/NY6 games vs a P5 school).

It makes them 9-4 in those games, 1 of those losses being cause it had to happen between TCU/Boise St.
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« Reply #982 on: January 04, 2018, 08:27:24 AM »
That is awesome. Hopefully they get a lot of votes in the final poll.

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« Reply #983 on: January 04, 2018, 08:36:58 AM »
If Bama wins, it would be the 2nd out of 4 tries that the 4 seed has won it all (the top seed has never won).  If the last team selected can win half the time, why would we assume #5-10 wouldn't be the "best team" if they won it all?

No one would. I mean look at the big 10, 3 NY6 bowls and they won all 3, and the only one that was won by a TD or less was Penn St-WashU and most of that game Penn St was up by 2+ TDs. Any one of those 3 teams would be serious champ game contenders, I like that we've got a playoff, and I am playing the long con on doing this in baby steps, but until this playoff has all P5 conference champs, the top G5 team and at least 2 at larges then it forever will let a few teams that could go the distance out of it.

And fwiw I'm generally ok with UCF milking this for all they got. Teams like TCU pre Big 12 (2011 Rose Bowl v Wisconsin and played v. Boise St in 2009 Fiesta Bowl but lost), Utah pre Pac 12 (2005 Fiesta and 2009 Sugar v. 12-1 Bama), Boise St (2006, 2009, and 2014 Fiesta Bowls), UCF (2013 Fiesta and obv 2017 Peach bowl), Houston (2015 Peach), have proven themselves capable of winning BCS/NY6 bowls against any other competition, and pretty much successful (Western Michigan, Hawaii, and Northern Illinois are the only to lose a BCS/NY6 games vs a P5 school).

It makes them 9-4 in those games, 1 of those losses being cause it had to happen between TCU/Boise St.
Is there any way to know what would led happen if, say, Ohio State were to play Oklahoma?

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #984 on: January 04, 2018, 08:57:17 AM »
I think Ohio State would win.

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« Reply #985 on: January 04, 2018, 09:26:32 AM »
If you are going to do this, UCF is doing it the right way. They went all in on this thing and it will be pretty good PR for them and their program.

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« Reply #986 on: January 04, 2018, 09:39:16 AM »
If you are going to do this, UCF is doing it the right way. They went all in on this thing and it will be pretty good PR for them and their program.

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #987 on: January 04, 2018, 09:59:31 AM »
 :love: the whole UCF thing

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #988 on: January 04, 2018, 10:06:19 AM »
Big 12 should get UCF, haven't had a national champion since 2005
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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #989 on: January 04, 2018, 10:31:04 AM »
Big 12 should get UCF, haven't had a national champion since 2005

If we're going to have TCU, why the hell not? Might as well have a mediocre to average program in Florida too. I'll be interested to see what their tv ratings are like if/when Chingon does his annual ratings post.

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« Reply #990 on: January 04, 2018, 11:24:12 AM »
I’m firmly team MIR here. This is small-timely and very whiny. Auburn had a legitimate argument in 2004 and even they didn’t pretend they won a title

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #991 on: January 04, 2018, 11:34:34 AM »
I’m firmly team MIR here. This is small-timely and very whiny. Auburn had a legitimate argument in 2004 and even they didn’t pretend they won a title
why compare auburn to ucf?  ucf knows it’s place in this world


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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #992 on: January 04, 2018, 11:35:27 AM »
I’m firmly team MIR here. This is small-timely and very whiny. Auburn had a legitimate argument in 2004 and even they didn’t pretend they won a title
why compare auburn to ucf?  ucf knows it’s place in this world
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« Reply #993 on: January 04, 2018, 11:47:47 AM »
I’m firmly team MIR here. This is small-timely and very whiny. Auburn had a legitimate argument in 2004 and even they didn’t pretend they won a title


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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #994 on: January 04, 2018, 11:48:24 AM »
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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #995 on: January 04, 2018, 11:52:35 AM »
Lots of Natty Champ haterz being dunked on ITT
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« Reply #996 on: January 04, 2018, 11:55:45 AM »
The system in place is a joke and corrupt, so they deserve it as much as anybody else


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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #997 on: January 04, 2018, 11:57:20 AM »
I think people are just upset because UCF is acting like a big time program. Deciding not to celebrate their national championship is the small-timey thing to do.

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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #998 on: January 04, 2018, 11:59:22 AM »
How many losses would everyone below #3 have to have for an undefeated ucf to get spot #4? Probably at least 3 right? Maybe 4?
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Re: 2017 Other Games Thread
« Reply #999 on: January 04, 2018, 12:01:46 PM »
Let UCF have their Helms Championship, it's not hurting anyone.