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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #725 on: April 17, 2017, 11:37:51 AM »
I love KSU and am cool with paying talent if that means keeping/making KSU competitive, but am pretty jealous I can't work in a guaranteed 10% raise each year for me.

My job is like that for the first 5 years at least. :woot:


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Re: New AD List (acceptable- weiberg, hocutt. not acceptable-veatch)
« Reply #727 on: April 17, 2017, 12:03:56 PM »

Put Meyers, Snyder, and Wefald in a room, and sure, I can see them liking a guy in his late 50's over a guy in his early 40's.

And, yes, I believe the selection committee picked some names and Meyers decided with heavy input from Wefald and Snyder because common sense.

Why? I had no idea those guys were ageist. I would have thought three successful people would have gotten where they are without caring about someone's age. Did I misread Bjork's wiki page? I didn't know he was 24 years old.


where did the 24 years old come in? pan said late 50's over early 40's. also, I can very easily imagine the scenario that pan described happening and bet it probably did. bill, Meyers and weefer. three guys well into their 70's that felt pretty comfortable with the older gentleman from north Dakota/iowa.

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Re: New AD List (acceptable- weiberg, hocutt. not acceptable-veatch)
« Reply #728 on: April 17, 2017, 12:34:21 PM »

Put Meyers, Snyder, and Wefald in a room, and sure, I can see them liking a guy in his late 50's over a guy in his early 40's.

And, yes, I believe the selection committee picked some names and Meyers decided with heavy input from Wefald and Snyder because common sense.

Why? I had no idea those guys were ageist. I would have thought three successful people would have gotten where they are without caring about someone's age. Did I misread Bjork's wiki page? I didn't know he was 24 years old.


where did the 24 years old come in? pan said late 50's over early 40's. also, I can very easily imagine the scenario that pan described happening and bet it probably did. bill, Meyers and weefer. three guys well into their 70's that felt pretty comfortable with the older gentleman from north Dakota/iowa.

Well the inference is either those guys are ageists or Bjork is green. This would have represented the third major athletic department Bjork would have been in charge of. He's been in college athletics administration for 20 years. So no, he isn't green and I'm guessing Meyers can read a resume. So either pan is accusing Meyers of being an ageist or pan made his post ignorant of Bjork's experience.

I'm guessing Bjork not getting the job had a lot more to do with him being in charge of a department in pretty serious NCAA trouble and absolutely nothing to do with his age relative to Taylor's.

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Re: New AD List (acceptable- weiberg, hocutt. not acceptable-veatch)
« Reply #729 on: April 17, 2017, 12:56:19 PM »

Put Meyers, Snyder, and Wefald in a room, and sure, I can see them liking a guy in his late 50's over a guy in his early 40's.

And, yes, I believe the selection committee picked some names and Meyers decided with heavy input from Wefald and Snyder because common sense.

Why? I had no idea those guys were ageist. I would have thought three successful people would have gotten where they are without caring about someone's age. Did I misread Bjork's wiki page? I didn't know he was 24 years old.


where did the 24 years old come in? pan said late 50's over early 40's. also, I can very easily imagine the scenario that pan described happening and bet it probably did. bill, Meyers and weefer. three guys well into their 70's that felt pretty comfortable with the older gentleman from north Dakota/iowa.

Well the inference is either those guys are ageists or Bjork is green. This would have represented the third major athletic department Bjork would have been in charge of. He's been in college athletics administration for 20 years. So no, he isn't green and I'm guessing Meyers can read a resume. So either pan is accusing Meyers of being an ageist or pan made his post ignorant of Bjork's experience.

I'm guessing Bjork not getting the job had a lot more to do with him being in charge of a department in pretty serious NCAA trouble and absolutely nothing to do with his age relative to Taylor's.

I've never met a single person over 70, regardless of success level, that isn't ageist to some degree.

We can debate severity, but yes, I believe there was at least mild ageism at play.  I thought I was pretty clear on that.


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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #730 on: April 17, 2017, 12:58:43 PM »
And as empirical evidence, I submit every assistant coaching hire Bill has made since he's come back, excluding people who played for him (which Bjork did not).

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #731 on: April 17, 2017, 02:51:55 PM »
Keitzman just said that Snyder talked to him over the phone before the hire was made, so yeah it seems like Snyder did interview him.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #732 on: April 17, 2017, 03:52:01 PM »
Well if these guys hired Taylor over Bjork because of his age, then I guess that's what they did, it's unfortunate our university is once again being run like the family farm but here we are. I guess I wanted to give Myers too much credit.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #733 on: April 17, 2017, 03:57:45 PM »
#FAMILY farm

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #734 on: April 17, 2017, 07:32:33 PM »
A) Ageism has nothing to do with old people exlusively, EVERYONE is ageist to some degree. It's a pretty natural tendency.

B) As for Snyder exclusively preferring older coaches? I dont think age has much to do with it. It's a secondary result of Snyder wanting people on his staff that he is very comfortable with, have experience and more importantly direct knowledge of his program, and most importantly people that he trusts. I don't think Snyder really branches out and networks much with younger coaches and assistants at coaching conventions anymore. So yeah his choices of younger assistants are basically former players. But no i don't think the actual age is a huge factor, just a byproduct

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« Reply #735 on: April 17, 2017, 07:43:44 PM »
A) Ageism has nothing to do with old people exlusively, EVERYONE is ageist to some degree. It's a pretty natural tendency.

B) As for Snyder exclusively preferring older coaches? I dont think age has much to do with it. It's a secondary result of Snyder wanting people on his staff that he is very comfortable with, have experience and more importantly direct knowledge of his program, and most importantly people that he trusts. I don't think Snyder really branches out and networks much with younger coaches and assistants at coaching conventions anymore. So yeah his choices of younger assistants are basically former players. But no i don't think the actual age is a huge factor, just a byproduct

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #736 on: April 17, 2017, 07:43:54 PM »
I'm ageist against teens

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #737 on: April 17, 2017, 08:35:03 PM »

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« Reply #738 on: April 17, 2017, 08:36:21 PM »
Robert looks very skeptical

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #739 on: April 17, 2017, 08:44:58 PM »
#FAMILY farm


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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #740 on: April 17, 2017, 09:09:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/DScottFritchen/status/853991085965799425

we just bought our AD at dollar general store

 I'd gave to look at overall numbers. But first initial salary starting out? Hardly getting a guy on the cheap. ..

 But my personal opinion is if you are starting to approach paying ANY AD closer to $1 million/ yr range you are starting to overpay.

Start throwing big, big money at an AD and i'd prob argue  you are spending irresponsibly.


 Hell i bet , blind guessing, Taylors starting salary is prob pretty close to top 50 nationally, or somewhere around there. It's competitive and i have no doubt if we really wanted to could pay a lot more. But again. Nothing wrong with be responsible with administrators salaries

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #741 on: April 17, 2017, 09:25:52 PM »
#FAMILY farm


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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #742 on: April 17, 2017, 09:28:41 PM »
i don't give a crap about how much we're paying him. first impression he seems down to earth and not socially awkward, which is an improvement.

my only concern is that he is going to SLTH the crap out of his hires/fires, and that includes retaining Oscar even if we don't make the tourney next year.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #743 on: April 17, 2017, 09:43:38 PM »
The fact that this upper fifties year old dude was out busting his balls for the oppy to run a p5 school is pretty great. I would have rather had weiberg but I like how hardcore next door neighbor dad seems.

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« Reply #744 on: April 17, 2017, 09:49:53 PM »
A) Ageism has nothing to do with old people exlusively, EVERYONE is ageist to some degree. It's a pretty natural tendency.

B) As for Snyder exclusively preferring older coaches? I dont think age has much to do with it. It's a secondary result of Snyder wanting people on his staff that he is very comfortable with, have experience and more importantly direct knowledge of his program, and most importantly people that he trusts. I don't think Snyder really branches out and networks much with younger coaches and assistants at coaching conventions anymore. So yeah his choices of younger assistants are basically former players. But no i don't think the actual age is a huge factor, just a byproduct

While I think your first point is a bit of oversimplification I somewhat agree with the spirit of what you're saying. The problem isn't the perception of ageism. Pan flat said it was a basis of hiring, I'd bet my car that Myers would take exception to that, and if he didn't we should. Again the younger guy has more experience as an actual D1, athletic director, a lot more.

In this case picking the older guy just because he's older is amazingly stupid because the age isn't coupled with an experience advantage. I seriously don't understand how none of you can see how dumb you guys are making General Myers out to be by giving him this excuse.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #745 on: April 18, 2017, 09:53:31 AM »
we need to give our athletic department a ball job, our current balls are getting way to saggy and they need a lift.  we need a younger vision, not snyder, wefald, and myers who will all be dead in the next decade. that's not how you run a business.  it's a good old boys club and they're being greedy and playing loose with the future of the ksu cats u.  and now this old balls taylor dude added to the mix.  succession planning is a real thing that exists in this world. 

someone is going to point to veatch and i'm going to reply that unless he gets a brain transplant, he is not the future of our athletic dept.


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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #746 on: April 18, 2017, 01:53:53 PM »
Age is just a number.  I don't think of our leaders as old.  I Just think of them as normal people with really high numbers who don't have long to live.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #747 on: April 18, 2017, 04:06:52 PM »
He's on with BITB right meow.

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #748 on: April 18, 2017, 04:13:28 PM »
what's he saying about DeBruce's contract?

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Re: new AD Hire (next door neighbor dad looking guy from iowa)
« Reply #749 on: April 18, 2017, 04:17:56 PM »
All Snyder stuff right now. Taking BITB's softballs and being politically correct so far.