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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1200 on: March 10, 2022, 06:08:46 PM »
There should really be a 30 for 30 about those two weeks in March for Kansas State basketball. it's the 10 year anniversary after all. There was so damn much going on.

The trash can
Wacky in Pittsburgh
Frank in the CBS studio while plotting his exit
Will and Shannon Spradling
The Dallas hotel room
The search firm
The meltdown about Steve Alford before oscar v. Doug
gE being media darlings
The sink in Bramlage
Will Angel stay or go

I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1201 on: March 10, 2022, 06:11:31 PM »
There should really be a 30 for 30 about those two weeks in March for Kansas State basketball. it's the 10 year anniversary after all. There was so damn much going on.

The trash can
Wacky in Pittsburgh
Frank in the CBS studio while plotting his exit
Will and Shannon Spradling
The Dallas hotel room
The search firm
The meltdown about Steve Alford before oscar v. Doug
gE being media darlings
The sink in Bramlage
Will Angel stay or go

I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1202 on: March 10, 2022, 06:12:25 PM »
I'd be fine with Shane, but only after being rejected publicly by a couple of big names.

yep.  Hard not to like him.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1203 on: March 10, 2022, 06:13:41 PM »
Lol at trash can gate. IIRC it was Wacky who broke the news on gE like 45 minutes before the game because he "heard it from some suits" and everyone was like WTF does some suits mean and Wacky was like "Someone who is really important, duh"

No, he heard about Jamar being suspended against Syracuse, trash can gate was before that, it was also broken here too by i believe either bsac or capt crap
I had forgotten about capt crap. He needs to pop back in to drop some nuggets about his time in the AD (or whatever his position was)

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1204 on: March 10, 2022, 06:19:08 PM »
I'd be fine with Shane, but only after being rejected publicly by a couple of big names.

yep.  Hard not to like him.
What recruits do you think we’d get without him right now?

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1205 on: March 10, 2022, 06:24:59 PM »
I'd love for Shane to get the job, but I'd love to hear from the people who would be fine with getting the job but thinks/thought the Gottlieb hire is any different. Maybe people are forgetting how close Gottlieb was to the Big 12 basketball and to the K-State program.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1206 on: March 10, 2022, 06:32:41 PM »
Shane has assistant coaching experience.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1207 on: March 10, 2022, 06:39:06 PM »
I'd love for Shane to get the job, but I'd love to hear from the people who would be fine with getting the job but thinks/thought the Gottlieb hire is any different. Maybe people are forgetting how close Gottlieb was to the Big 12 basketball and to the K-State program.

Gottlieb would have been a disaster and so would Shane at age 30.  I definitely think he will get a head coaching job soon though similar to Kim English. 
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1208 on: March 10, 2022, 06:50:56 PM »
Shane has assistant coaching experience.

Believe me when I tell you that Gottlieb having grown up with college basketball coaches for a father and siblings and literally spending the entire college basketball season for a decade sitting with Big 12 coaches is just as relevant as Shane spending a year as a grad assistant and two years as the Director of Student Athlete Development.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1209 on: March 10, 2022, 07:08:42 PM »
People acting like Doug was a joke at the time are being dishonest.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1210 on: March 10, 2022, 07:20:04 PM »
People acting like Doug was a joke at the time are being dishonest.
not as dishonest as your part owner, who rough ridin' hates the school we root for. :dunno:

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1211 on: March 10, 2022, 07:22:34 PM »
Yeah, I think Doug rightfully being recognized as significantly "less cool" over the past decade has negatively skewed memories his actual attractiveness as a HC candidate during that time.

He had everything, aside from experience, that you'd want.
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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1212 on: March 10, 2022, 07:22:37 PM »
People acting like Doug was a joke at the time are being dishonest.
not as dishonest as your part owner, who rough ridin' hates the school we root for. :dunno:
I think he is honest but can be an bad person, there is a difference. I don’t think getting upset about him is probably going to change anything.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1213 on: March 10, 2022, 07:29:24 PM »
People acting like Doug was a joke at the time are being dishonest.
not as dishonest as your part owner, who rough ridin' hates the school we root for. :dunno:
I think he is honest but can be an bad person, there is a difference. I don’t think getting upset about him is probably going to change anything.
I don’t see how it helps at all tho. I’m absolutely guilty with this, but just annoyed. Dude doesn’t gaf and he gets a pass.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1214 on: March 10, 2022, 10:14:41 PM »
I'd be down with Shane but that's not happening.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1215 on: March 10, 2022, 10:16:05 PM »
shane would be shitty and I love shane

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1216 on: March 10, 2022, 10:16:47 PM »
irl current qannon maga doug gottlieb would be better and I do not like him but it's a convenient point of reference

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1217 on: March 10, 2022, 10:20:02 PM »
ya i want to empathize but he makes it so hard. he drug every coach we’ve had since kruger out the door with him in a way that only oscar can
His point was, no one won a goddamn conference title since he got there, and nobody was named Grade A1 villain from the first day they were hired at K-State either since ‘77.

when he was crying about how none of those other coaches couldn’t do what he did in winning B12’s, he should have also included coaching the team to a place statistically, that was lower than anything those other coaches could, despite how hard they tried

typical oscar, take the adulation, ignore/displace any criticism
It was his farewell speech. You gonna talk about your lows on your death bed?

Talk about your highs but don't drag old coaches with you.  Hell I half expected him to mention his B12's versus old balls.
He was crap on from day 1 by our psycho fan base and never got the opportunity to be liked, like the others. I appreciate his mic drop on the way out. He's 100% accurate on all accounts.

Isn't his ability to be liked directly tied to him?

Come on man. Some of you guys complaining about that press conference are doing a little bit of performative theatre with the oscar Weber era. Yeah, he and he alone are responsible for the on court results, but literally from the start there were significant parts of this fan base that never gave him a chance. We, literally we, goEMAW picketed his press conference. A poster on this board broke a sink at Bramlage during said press conference. The first year he was here, a year in which he won a conference championship, he went down to Texas and beat UT down there, his reward, he got heckled during his post game interview, after a goddamn win. There are so many of these things that I could go on and on about. Do you think he didn't know this crap was happening? Do you think that he should have just been able to compartmentalize that swaths of the fan base never accepted him, only because he followed Frank Martin and he was hired by John Currie? This was a highly unusual situation from the start, and you're fooling yourself if you even hint that he was given a level playing field when he started here.

I called for him to be fired a couple of times and even given retrospect I still think he should have been fired after he lost nearly that entire team with Foster, and I think the team grossly underperformed during Dean, Barry, and Cam's sophomore year. I was clearly wrong and I'll own that.

I don't have the energy or the memory to contest any of this.  Could be right on target but let's just reflect on the last 24 hours and how many people oscar has dragged after his own team's performance down the stretch this year and past few years.  I mean really gE is the reason you couldn't be liked?  I seem to remember back in the days you mention he had multiple comments where he couldn't help but take 0 blame and turn it to his team but like I said I don't have the energy to remember for sure.  He didn't simply come in hated and win a championship and remain hated because of social media.  I mean.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1218 on: March 10, 2022, 11:03:44 PM »
We do irl wield this power. Next coach be warned. Be ye friend or fo!?

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1219 on: March 10, 2022, 11:04:59 PM »
oscar is such a rough ridin' sad loser though irl (not basketball record related, but obviously that as well the majority of the time unfortunately)

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1220 on: March 11, 2022, 01:42:50 AM »
This article is about oscar vs. seff and attempts to contrast seff’s restrained statement with the other coaches’ supposedly glowing remarks, including Huggins’.

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article259280034.html

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“He’s always been a hard-working, good guy. ... He’s had a great, great career. Some of us aren’t blessed to have walked into ready-made programs. And I think oscar is one of those guys,” West Virginia’s Bob Huggins said.

Does the writer think that huggins was saying that oscar ISN’T a guy that walked into ready-made programs? Is that what huggins said/meant and was he joking/drunk? Did he actually mean exactly what it says, that huggins and others had to build programs from scratch while oscar didn’t and the writer completely whiffed?

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1221 on: March 11, 2022, 06:36:46 AM »
Given the quote as is, I think Huggins is comparing a non-ready made program like Kansas State against like a blue blood program or a place that's super easy to recruit to.

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1222 on: March 11, 2022, 08:36:52 AM »
not sure

he walked into an Illinois job and K-State job that were cruising


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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1223 on: March 11, 2022, 08:40:41 AM »
Hugs is saying Frank had the program in great shape when oscar inherited it

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Re: Daily Update On If oscar Weber Is Fired Yet And, If Not, Why Not
« Reply #1224 on: March 11, 2022, 08:43:18 AM »
I may be reading too much into this but it feels like the mainstream media is taking shots at gE:

https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1502290464661192709?s=20&t=S2361EQFU4xtI6DIMvmsMQ