"Taking the games more serious." -Westicles

[PIPE]

If I hear Weber mention his stupid play hard chart again I might shoot something

[Clevey 2 Times]

This all smells of the Wooly era.

[kso_FAN]

This all smells of the Wooly era.

To be fair, this is the Wooly era at its best. oscar already has as many quality wins this year as Wooly's best seasons.

[Bookcat]

This all smells of the Wooly era.

Asbury is FIRED!! YES>... NEXT CHAPTER!!!!

Hire Wooly. Mmmm. OK. It'll work out, I just know it....

1. Soften the OOC to ridiculous levels
2. Get the donors in your back pocket because you're nice.
3. Lose close games against anyone with a pulse. (but we are competing!!!)
4. Follow up decent home wins with head scratcher losses
5. Talk about being a bubble team in January early Feb.
6. No dance but the apologists call it progress.

Next thing you know you wake up and it's 2006.

[kso_FAN]

Guys, stop with Wooly comparisons. He never had us even close to this much success in a single season. Really.

Asbury is probably a better comparison. This is somewhat similar to the 97 or 98 seasons. Even then, Asbury never beat anyone close to West Virginia even.

You guys need to brush up on your Altman/Asbury/Wooly history.

[Clevey 2 Times]

This all smells of the Wooly era.

To be fair, this is the Wooly era at its best. oscar already has as many quality wins this year as Wooly's best seasons.

I agree with you on that, I'm referring more specifically to the (probable) lack of respect these guys have for oscar. I will say, of the teams with oscar's guys, this one seems to have the best chemistry, but lately it just reminds me of a dark past. oscar is a better coach, but I'm not sure he is a better motivator of young men than Wooly was. 

[Clevey 2 Times]

Guys, stop with Wooly comparisons. He never had us even close to this much success in a single season. Really.

Asbury is probably a better comparison. This is somewhat similar to the 97 or 98 seasons. Even then, Asbury never beat anyone close to West Virginia even.

You guys need to brush up on your Altman/Asbury/Wooly history.

Wooly inherited a dumpster fire. oscar inherited a program. Starting points make a big difference in comparison. I think oscar is getting better players, barely.

[Tobias]

pretty much all facets of the oscar era are a million times better

[kso_FAN]

Guys, stop with Wooly comparisons. He never had us even close to this much success in a single season. Really.

Asbury is probably a better comparison. This is somewhat similar to the 97 or 98 seasons. Even then, Asbury never beat anyone close to West Virginia even.

You guys need to brush up on your Altman/Asbury/Wooly history.

Wooly inherited a dumpster fire. oscar inherited a program. Starting points make a big difference in comparison. I think oscar is getting better players, barely.

That's fair. Asbury's final year is probably my low point of following K-State basketball. It was awful.

After oscar burned down his own program, he has recovered far better than I expected.

[Clevey 2 Times]

Guys, stop with Wooly comparisons. He never had us even close to this much success in a single season. Really.

Asbury is probably a better comparison. This is somewhat similar to the 97 or 98 seasons. Even then, Asbury never beat anyone close to West Virginia even.

You guys need to brush up on your Altman/Asbury/Wooly history.

Wooly inherited a dumpster fire. oscar inherited a program. Starting points make a big difference in comparison. I think oscar is getting better players, barely.

That's fair. Asbury's final year is probably my low point of following K-State basketball. It was awful.

After oscar burned down his own program, he has recovered far better than I expected.

I could simply be forgetting something here, but do his players ever stand up for him? Do they ever publicly have his back? It never happened with Wooly, I don't think it's happening with oscar. Think about some of the most consistent coaches in the nation -- not even at the top programs -- the connection/bond between coach and player is strong. I just don't think oscar has that ability and it ultimately limits us to ever getting where we were just a half dozen years ago.

[ELL3]

Altman beat some pretty good teams (only K-State coach that had winning record versus Tubbs) and did go to the post season (2 NIT, 1 NCAA) his last three seasons. The team Kruger left him (an injured Ski Jones as well) kind of sucked. 

[kso_FAN]

Altman in the Big 8.
3-11
5-9
7-7
4-10

He would not have made the NIT twice the way it is currently formatted. Maybe not even once.

[Powercat Posse]

I mean the 16 years of Dana, Tom, and Jim produced 1 team that finished in top half of the conference (4th In Big8 one season). Those 3 overall record was 4 games above .500

Oh how we forget, what Bad basketball really is.

[Tobias]

titletown spoiled these kids

[bones129]

TuckNation no doubt will once again point to the players as being the issue, completely absolving Weber of any responsibility.

oscar Weber will get that retention bonus, and will coach at K-State through the end of existing contract, unless we have a new AD somewhere in there.

Sad, but probably true.

[SdK]

I don't know why oscar can't froth them up into a fury a giveadang insane stupor.  DJamer, Flush, and Claws play like they would rather lose.a family jewel than lose a game.  Take them out and all we have are store bought toematers, good looking but no taste.

Whoever is playing this sock, stop

[SdK]

He may not always play well, but I can't fault Sneed's effort. I think the most inconsistent guys are Brown and Stokes. I'm not sure I'd say Wade is the hardest working guy either.

This sock too

[ednksu]

oscar has Stockholm-ed these guys pretty bad.  Won't be long before they toss themselves under the bus saying they don't run things correctly and it's not oscar's fault. 

[renocat]

oscar has Stockholm-ed these guys pretty bad.  Won't be long before they toss themselves under the bus saying they don't run things correctly and it's not oscar's fault.

This seems to be occurring.  Ithink the IowaState game damaged their fighting spirit.

[pvegs]

He may not always play well, but I can't fault Sneed's effort. I think the most inconsistent guys are Brown and Stokes. I'm not sure I'd say Wade is the hardest working guy either.

This sock too

i'd say carlbe, DJamer, and sneed are the only guys i don't worry about effort wise. unfortunately, even while playing hard they sometimes suck.

[michigancat]

I was talking to someone about my sprained ankle today and made it a point to say it was a little "boogered up".

[kso_FAN]

I was talking to someone about my sprained ankle today and made it a point to say it was a little "boogered up".

[sys]

I can't fault Sneed's effort.

trim had a great tweet highlighting sneed's transition defense not so long ago.


@michigancat.

[michigancat]

I can't fault Sneed's effort.

trim had a great tweet highlighting sneed's transition defense not so long ago.


@michigancat.

would like to see! was it worse than Brown's during TravelGate?

[sys]

better effort, worse optics.

https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/826671762993672192