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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2017, 11:43:18 PM »
True, trump is very fortunate to be inheriting a good economy

I think the economy is and has been crap.  He's just inheriting good timing because it can't be shitty forever.

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2017, 01:04:01 AM »
If the economy is even remotely improved and the employment participation rate improves he will easily be re-elected.

Well the "participation rate" won't vastly improve but it will go back to not mattering like it didn't for the 236 years the country existed before the latest recovery. Participation rate is a made up metric for crap brained partisans to be passive aggressively unamerican. Easier to move the goal posts than acknowledge anything positive that happened in this country under the coon in chief.

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2017, 08:41:06 AM »
If the economy is even remotely improved and the employment participation rate improves he will easily be re-elected.

Well the "participation rate" won't vastly improve but it will go back to not mattering like it didn't for the 236 years the country existed before the latest recovery. Participation rate is a made up metric for crap brained partisans to be passive aggressively unamerican. Easier to move the goal posts than acknowledge anything positive that happened in this country under the coon in chief.

You think 20-30 year olds not participating in the work force isn't a big deal?

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2017, 08:42:30 AM »
eff 'em, john.

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2017, 08:52:45 AM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2017, 08:55:50 AM »
Some people would just rather not work. It's not like those people are going to get the good jobs that a strong economy creates. Why would anyone offering a high-paying job consider the 20-something that hasn't ever had a job and lives with his parents?

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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2017, 09:36:31 AM »
Some people would just rather not work. It's not like those people are going to get the good jobs that a strong economy creates. Why would anyone offering a high-paying job consider the 20-something that hasn't ever had a job and lives with his parents?
Because their mommy and Daddy told them they could be anything they want to be and they want to be the boss of those companies now.  Isn't that how it works?  "I want it so you have to give it to me?"

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2017, 09:40:48 AM »
You guys suck at guessing games.

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2017, 10:58:25 AM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2017, 11:13:14 AM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.
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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2017, 11:28:13 AM »
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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2017, 01:29:27 PM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.

If there was really positive job growth, there should be plenty of jobs to go around, and the 16-24 demographic should be increasing in participation rate rather than dropping 10% from 2004 to 2014. Is grandpa really taking that many jobs away from them?

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2017, 02:56:54 PM »
So just to be clear you believe the stats in  lowered participation rate but are suggesting you don't believe the stats of growing jobs....From the same agency?
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Maybe the problem here is the grasping of what the participation rate even means.

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2017, 03:30:28 PM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.

If there was really positive job growth, there should be plenty of jobs to go around, and the 16-24 demographic should be increasing in participation rate rather than dropping 10% from 2004 to 2014. Is grandpa really taking that many jobs away from them?

If someone were taking jobs from them, they'd be counted as unemployed, not non-participants. These people would just rather not work. The only thing that will drive them to the workforce will be their parents kicking them out or their parents dying.

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2017, 04:30:11 PM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.

If there was really positive job growth, there should be plenty of jobs to go around, and the 16-24 demographic should be increasing in participation rate rather than dropping 10% from 2004 to 2014. Is grandpa really taking that many jobs away from them?

If someone were taking jobs from them, they'd be counted as unemployed, not non-participants. These people would just rather not work. The only thing that will drive them to the workforce will be their parents kicking them out or their parents dying.

Well, several years back there was much discussion about this. The "unemployed vs not in the work force" definition seemed to change. If you were collecting unemployment payments, you are considered unemployed, but once your unemployment benefits ran out and you were still unemployed, you were no longer considered in the work force. This is how we got tho 4.5% unemployment and the lowest participation rate in 40 years.

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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2017, 04:31:35 PM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.

If there was really positive job growth, there should be plenty of jobs to go around, and the 16-24 demographic should be increasing in participation rate rather than dropping 10% from 2004 to 2014. Is grandpa really taking that many jobs away from them?

If someone were taking jobs from them, they'd be counted as unemployed, not non-participants. These people would just rather not work. The only thing that will drive them to the workforce will be their parents kicking them out or their parents dying.

Well, several years back there was much discussion about this. The "unemployed vs not in the work force" definition seemed to change. If you were collecting unemployment payments, you are considered unemployed, but once your unemployment benefits ran out and you were still unemployed, you were no longer considered in the work force. This is how we got tho 4.5% unemployment and the lowest participation rate in 40 years.

How long does it take your unemployment benefits to run out?

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2017, 04:53:23 PM »
Not to be a jerk but there are jobs everywhere...

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2017, 05:00:24 PM »
Not for coal miners
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2017, 05:03:21 PM »
Not for coal miners

lots of unskilled labor jobs.  get on a road crew

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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2017, 05:08:43 PM »
You guys realize stay at home moms (and dads!) are counted in that labor participation rate, right?

Not sure if Mommybloggers count for or against the rate though.

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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2017, 06:17:09 PM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

I think you're looking at it from the wrong end.  There is a lot of information out there that baby boomers aren't retiring early or at the "normal" time.  That is skewing your data a bit.  It's also a HUGE issue for academic jobs.  At some point, through health, or they finally feel "secure" they'll start retiring in mass and we'll see that balance change drastically.

If there was really positive job growth, there should be plenty of jobs to go around, and the 16-24 demographic should be increasing in participation rate rather than dropping 10% from 2004 to 2014. Is grandpa really taking that many jobs away from them?

If someone were taking jobs from them, they'd be counted as unemployed, not non-participants. These people would just rather not work. The only thing that will drive them to the workforce will be their parents kicking them out or their parents dying.

Well, several years back there was much discussion about this. The "unemployed vs not in the work force" definition seemed to change. If you were collecting unemployment payments, you are considered unemployed, but once your unemployment benefits ran out and you were still unemployed, you were no longer considered in the work force. This is how we got tho 4.5% unemployment and the lowest participation rate in 40 years.

How long does it take your unemployment benefits to run out?

I think it was extended to 1 year.

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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2017, 06:47:07 PM »
Nobody can seriously look for work for a year and not find a job.

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Re: trumps last day as president guess
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2017, 06:24:44 AM »
Demographics are working hard against the participation rate improving anywhere near the late 90's/2000 highs of close to 70%

Check out these stats, pretty interesting. While participation rate for younger workers decreased from 2004 to 2014, rates went up for older workers. Seems contrary to what most people believe.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm
The only dramatic change that shows is the participation rate for 16 to 24 year olds. Could it be that more people in that age range are seeking higher education? A quick Google search indicates so.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=98
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2017, 06:42:23 AM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-obscure-way-to-oust-an-american-president/
This is the lead headline on the CBS enews site.  The crux of it is about removing a president because of mental illness.  Now the appears to be mental illness.  Dr. Rick is he?  Or is he Wiley Don Fart?

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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2017, 08:52:17 AM »
It's pretty obvious if you listen to his rants and delusions of grandeur that something isnt clicking.