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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2017, 09:55:30 PM »
anyone got a replay of the Westicles flagrant?

It was a joke. Total BS call. Ridiculous

Once again, most impressive thing all night... Ksu down 38-26. The next 26 Poss, we outscored them 38-15. TOs, WV 10 Ksu 3 in that run. And we shot 13-20 with 3 3pt.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2017, 10:19:48 PM »
I have this thing where my emotions are tested. I want what's best for the 'Cats and and the players to keep winning and keep K-State relevant, but I also hate oscar and think he's a weirdo who I don't want on the sidelines.


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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2017, 10:33:47 PM »
I have this thing where my emotions are tested. I want what's best for the 'Cats and and the players to keep winning and keep K-State relevant, but I also hate oscar and think he's a weirdo who I don't want on the sidelines.


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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2017, 10:35:32 PM »
The call was way worse than Svis travel because the refs actually reviewed it and changed the no call
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2017, 10:43:34 PM »
Ok


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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2017, 11:31:21 PM »
It's good to have multiple ball handlers.  IMO helped break the press.  It was fun at the end to.watch our guards drive to the basket.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2017, 12:46:42 AM »
K-State now leads the Big 12 in defensive TO%. 2nd in steal%.

they play good d.  i know the big 12 only stats don't entirely back that up, but i trust my eyes on this one.
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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2017, 01:43:48 AM »


K-State now leads the Big 12 in defensive TO%. 2nd in steal%.

they play good d.  i know the big 12 only stats don't entirely back that up, but i trust my eyes on this one.

My eyes agree

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2017, 02:27:40 AM »
From the AP story:

Turnovers by the Mountaineers would eventually be their undoing. After averaging just a shade over 11 turnovers per game, the Mountaineers committed 23 in the loss.

"When you look at the amount of turnovers, and their halfcourt defense is not something to turn people over." West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins said following the contest.


Seems like a weird/inaccurate comment from Huggs about our halfcourt D.  Then again, he never seems to miss an opportunity to put everything bad at the feet of his players.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2017, 04:06:44 AM »
Using DJamer to break the press early in the second half after WVU adjusted their press at halftime was a nice wrinkle.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2017, 06:33:21 AM »
anyone got a replay of the Westicles flagrant?

It was a joke. Total BS call. Ridiculous

Once again, most impressive thing all night... Ksu down 38-26. The next 26 Poss, we outscored them 38-15. TOs, WV 10 Ksu 3 in that run. And we shot 13-20 with 3 3pt.

The two fouls called on the 'Cats when WVU players were shooting 3's were hilarious, no one called them for what they were:  FLOPS.  The flagrant on Wes was just great acting, I liked how the player reacted like a baby and held his head where Wes didn't even touch him. 

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2017, 08:27:03 AM »
Using DJamer to break the press early in the second half after WVU adjusted their press at halftime was a nice wrinkle.

This. It was such a simple adjustment, but made an enormous difference.
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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2017, 10:34:17 AM »
Yes. Getting the ball to a big and then right back to a guard is a great way to break pressure, especially when WVU was using the guy guarding the inbounder to trap.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2017, 11:40:30 AM »
We only had 5 TOs our last 41 Possessions. Did a good job of not letting the press get to us for almost the entire 2nd half. I can remember Wes having a TO and Adrian got a layup, and Brown threw the ball away about mid court. Those are the only 2 that come to mind where the pressure got to us in 2nd half.

Didn't Turn it over, and also scored the ball well. 5 TOs in 41 Poss. So the other 36 Poss, we put up 52 Pts.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2017, 04:06:33 PM »
Cats did an amazing job of not letting one turnover turn into 2,3,4. That was huge.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2017, 04:40:13 PM »
Ervin play the last two games has been good for his role. Playing about 10 mins brining defense and rebounding.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2017, 04:48:38 PM »
Ervin play the last two games has been good for his role. Playing about 10 mins brining defense and rebounding.

Same thing with Maurice the last 3 games. I like his little mid range jumper from the corner.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2017, 04:50:30 PM »
We only had 5 TOs our last 41 Possessions. Did a good job of not letting the press get to us for almost the entire 2nd half. I can remember Wes having a TO and Adrian got a layup, and Brown threw the ball away about mid court. Those are the only 2 that come to mind where the pressure got to us in 2nd half.

Didn't Turn it over, and also scored the ball well. 5 TOs in 41 Poss. So the other 36 Poss, we put up 52 Pts.

We were great with the ball the last 25 minutes. Before that we had some horrible turnovers, then we finally stopped trying to run with them and got back to running offense. When we dictated tempo, we dominated.
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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2017, 05:38:57 PM »
Ervin play the last two games has been good for his role. Playing about 10 mins brining defense and rebounding.

Same thing with Maurice the last 3 games. I like his little mid range jumper from the corner.

It is such a good weapon. I wish they would bring Patrick a long more. Everyone talks about how he is the best shooter on the team and he has a good build.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2017, 06:24:28 PM »
Sneed's lack of minutes are also frustrating

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2017, 06:25:38 PM »
Sneed's lack of minutes are also frustrating

I tend to agree a bit, but whose minutes does he take?

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2017, 06:36:23 PM »
Sneed's lack of minutes are also frustrating

I tend to agree a bit, but whose minutes does he take?

Any of the players from 1-4 could play at least 5 fewer minutes. They're all solid, but isn't like they're first team all-league caliber players that need to play 35 minutes per game. It's obvious oscar blames the loss of Stokes to the poor finish last year (given how color commentators mention it every game). Maybe you could play a guy like that less than 36 minutes the game after he left the court with a sprained ankle?

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2017, 06:57:45 PM »
From the AP story:

Turnovers by the Mountaineers would eventually be their undoing. After averaging just a shade over 11 turnovers per game, the Mountaineers committed 23 in the loss.

"When you look at the amount of turnovers, and their halfcourt defense is not something to turn people over." West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins said following the contest.


Seems like a weird/inaccurate comment from Huggs about our halfcourt D.  Then again, he never seems to miss an opportunity to put everything bad at the feet of his players.

I agree on the psychology of Huggs putting things on his players, but I also think he's simply referring to our style of D not being one that should cause that many turnovers.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2017, 07:52:09 PM »
Sneed's lack of minutes are also frustrating

I tend to agree a bit, but whose minutes does he take?

Any of the players from 1-4 could play at least 5 fewer minutes. They're all solid, but isn't like they're first team all-league caliber players that need to play 35 minutes per game. It's obvious oscar blames the loss of Stokes to the poor finish last year (given how color commentators mention it every game). Maybe you could play a guy like that less than 36 minutes the game after he left the court with a sprained ankle?

Ya, Stokes/Brown playing 69 minutes. Wes ave 33 min per game and Wade almost 32 (B12 play that is).
Very few times has Wes been in at the 2, but if you had Stokes/Brown duo get 4-5 less minutes, Wes could see a little time at SG.   Snead just 17.7 minutes right now.

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Re: Stokes-d to Barry Huggs; WVU ADV
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2017, 08:00:08 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, Wes, Stokes, and Brown are interchangeable at the 1-2 if Sneed is in.