i wish people (see above k-s-u-w types plus some scattered fringe hilltards) would stfu about trying to frame this as "Russia stealing the election for Trump"
its clear Russia undertook a major effort to undermine the validity of our election system as well as manipulate and sew division in American society. we should care and figure out what happened (and is still happening).
stop politicizing this, we have a cold war to fight
also if some random sleazebags go to jail as collateral damage that's fine too
Ooooookay. So how bout this: you just acknowledge that all the whining about "Trump colluding with Russia to steal the election" is likely bullshit, and we can go back to the original story, that Russian hackers successfully brainwashed Trump voters with fake news on Facebook.
Seriously, you sound like a reasonable fellow. So go ahead and acknowledge that, we'll shut down this thread, and move back to the "hacking" story.