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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2016, 11:03:57 PM »
The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.

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« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2016, 11:04:34 PM »
Opening the Big 12 season vs Baylor isn't good. Would much rather play them later in the season when their lack of depth is forcing them to basically forfeit.
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They have 1 commit (as of last week) for the 2017 class.

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All the major assistants will gone. It's going to be completely different program, no Briles holdover like this year. It will take time for the transition and likely some of the guys there now will be gone before games start. In this situation, it's going to be much better to play them early.

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2016, 11:08:00 PM »
The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.
That's fair I guess, but they play @ Duke and then face OU the week before they face us on the road. They'll already be destroyed by then.

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2016, 11:08:27 PM »
How are they even going to field a team come week 12 of 13?

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2016, 11:09:20 PM »
The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.
That's fair I guess, but they play @ Duke and then face OU the week before they face us on the road. They'll already be destroyed by then.
We'll beat them either way. My original point is I wish we had them later.

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2016, 11:11:46 PM »
It's basically the perfect schedule hand crafted by bowlsby to get us into the playoff
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« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2016, 11:12:32 PM »
Gotcha. Just don't think I could have picked a better schedule. Maybe replace Baylor and TCU, but I'm pumped! :ksu:

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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2016, 08:38:39 AM »
I would just love a replay of the 2003 Big 12 championship.


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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2016, 08:53:36 AM »
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2016, 09:36:23 AM »
10-2.

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2017 Kansas State football schedule

Central Arkansas (Sept. 2)

at Vanderbilt (Sept. 16)

Charlotte (Sept. 23)

Baylor (Sept. 30)

at Texas (Oct. 7)

TCU (Oct. 14)

Oklahoma (Oct. 21)

at Kansas (Oct. 28)

at Texas Tech (Nov. 4)

West Virginia (Nov. 11)

at Oklahoma State (Nov. 18)

Iowa State (Nov. 25)

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article120698553.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2016, 09:40:13 AM »
10-2.

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2017 Kansas State football schedule

Central Arkansas (Sept. 2)

at Vanderbilt (Sept. 16)

Charlotte (Sept. 23)

Baylor (Sept. 30)

at Texas (Oct. 7)

TCU (Oct. 14)

Oklahoma (Oct. 21)

at Kansas (Oct. 28)

at Texas Tech (Nov. 4)

West Virginia (Nov. 11)

at Oklahoma State (Nov. 18)

Iowa State (Nov. 25)

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article120698553.html#storylink=cpy
They confirmed on the K-State Huddlecast that 10-2 is the minimum expectation for 2017. Could be an exciting year!

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2016, 09:47:07 AM »
That's a very nice schedule.  I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe.  Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State? 

Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.


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« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2016, 09:51:51 AM »
That's a very nice schedule.  I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe.  Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State? 

Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.

I agree completely. I also can't remember the last time Chings said something positive about K-State football or basketball, but then again I'm just a purple kool aid drinker.

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #63 on: December 14, 2016, 09:52:56 AM »
Some ppl just don't like easy wins, dlew. It's weird, I know, but it's whatever.

Also, I don't believe chings has had a positive thought about K-state since possibly 1998 and then he probably turned.  :frown:

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #64 on: December 14, 2016, 09:55:37 AM »
I predicted 9-wins at the spring game last year (C'mon Texas Bowl victory :crossfingers: ) and think that next year sets up very nicely  :drool:

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2016, 10:08:30 AM »
With K-State, I think the levels are below:

0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6

I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.

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« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2016, 10:17:45 AM »
With K-State, I think the levels are below:

0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6

I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.

Yep. K-State adjusted and we now schedule a P5 OOC opponent every season. We will play 2-4 ranked opponents in our league every season. Our scheduling is fine.

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2016, 10:25:40 AM »
As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses.  My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones). 

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2016, 10:48:59 AM »
With K-State, I think the levels are below:

0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6

I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.

Some of it depends on other conferences, but I think a 12-1 team gets in, even if they aren't conference champ, and even if they are K-State. 

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #69 on: December 14, 2016, 10:54:28 AM »
That's a very nice schedule.  I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe.  Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State? 

Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team?  Sure.  But its the intention that bothers me.  I think the Big Ten has the right idea.

I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery.   KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game.  I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year.  If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins?   When would be a better time? 

I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football.  In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is.  I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.

I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team.  I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents. 


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« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2016, 10:58:28 AM »
I did not realize that Charlotte is not an FCS school until just now.

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« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2016, 10:58:34 AM »
As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses.  My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
Vandy? Time zones?
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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #72 on: December 14, 2016, 11:00:03 AM »
As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses.  My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
Vandy? Time zones?

They're too far away from my gut to know if they'll suck next year or not.

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« Reply #73 on: December 14, 2016, 11:01:19 AM »
How much have I missed?? We're playing the 49ers?? Is kaepernick still on that squad????

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Re: KSTATE football 2017
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2016, 11:02:17 AM »
That's a very nice schedule.  I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe.  Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State? 

Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team?  Sure.  But its the intention that bothers me.  I think the Big Ten has the right idea.

I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery.   KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game.  I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year.  If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins?   When would be a better time? 

I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football.  In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is.  I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.

I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team.  I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.

Completely agree, plus as a recruit would you rather play Central Arkansas and Charlotte or Stanford and Auburn?