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« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2017, 05:47:24 PM »
If we end up having the best team in the oscar Weber era, it wouldn't be hard to give actual good evidence. But it wouldn't be received well and I think the probability of a move would be likely.

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« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2017, 05:50:49 PM »
If we end up having the best team in the oscar Weber era, it wouldn't be hard to give actual good evidence. But it wouldn't be received well and I think the probability of a move would be likely.

If that's the case (I assume you mean kenpom) we'll be in the tournament. IMHO.

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« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2017, 05:52:00 PM »
think how the AD staff that's assigned to keep tabs on things explains this sort of discussion to currie.

that was quite fun to imagine.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2017, 05:52:55 PM »
your pessimism is kinda deflating, royals.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2017, 05:55:53 PM »
your pessimism is kinda deflating, royals.

The kpnt30 thing is cute, but there is a reason it rarely happens and I don't think this team will do it. They either win 9-10 games and finish 25 or better kp, or the losing continues and it falls apart, falling into the 40s. I don't see the middle ground leading to rare air.

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« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2017, 05:58:08 PM »
the big 12 has five teams between 23 and 34.  someone in this conference is going to do it and it might as well be us.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #81 on: January 15, 2017, 06:05:03 PM »
the big 12 has five teams between 23 and 34.  someone in this conference is going to do it and it might as well be us.

With how shitty the Big 10, PAC 12 and SEC are it is very possible that two teams do it.

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« Reply #82 on: January 15, 2017, 06:48:41 PM »
the big 12 has five teams between 23 and 34.  someone in this conference is going to do it and it might as well be us.

Why settle for 40 when 30 is available?
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« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2017, 08:36:52 PM »
Maybe another school will swoop in and steal oscar from us. That would be sad.

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« Reply #85 on: January 16, 2017, 12:13:17 PM »
your pessimism is kinda deflating, royals.

The kpnt30 thing is cute, but there is a reason it rarely happens and I don't think this team will do it. They either win 9-10 games and finish 25 or better kp, or the losing continues and it falls apart, falling into the 40s. I don't see the middle ground leading to rare air.
maybe that is an opportunity for the Highest Rated Team to Not Make Any Post Season in the History of KenPom

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« Reply #86 on: January 16, 2017, 12:19:42 PM »
I have just started looking at this but we were the No Invite champs for 2016 with our 55 going by the final rankings, will I have to fire up my old paypal account to see the bid week ratings?

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« Reply #87 on: January 16, 2017, 12:28:06 PM »
Win games.  Solves a lot.of debates.

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« Reply #88 on: January 16, 2017, 02:40:23 PM »
I have just started looking at this but we were the No Invite champs for 2016 with our 55 going by the final rankings, will I have to fire up my old paypal account to see the bid week ratings?

We had a post-session invite last year, didn't take it.

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« Reply #89 on: January 16, 2017, 02:41:53 PM »
Most people have never heard of the cbi so I have no problem ignoring it

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« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2017, 05:17:21 PM »
Someone on twitter asked for a further break down of Frank/oscar road wins.


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« Reply #91 on: January 17, 2017, 11:37:47 AM »
Someone on twitter asked for a further break down of Frank/oscar road wins.



Franks ability to win really hard road games is amazing. This chart is very miss leading to a degree, It does' show the quantity of different quality games. oscar has played a decent amount more of top 25 kenpom roadies. Where Frank played a fraction more of 100+ Kenpom road games. It isn't an apple to apple comparison.

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« Reply #92 on: January 17, 2017, 11:45:10 AM »
the dispersion may be different but the mean opponent (60.0 v 56.4) is pretty similar.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #93 on: January 17, 2017, 11:47:34 AM »
Quote from: john currie
oscar is twice as good as Frank.

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« Reply #94 on: January 17, 2017, 11:49:32 AM »
Someone on twitter asked for a further break down of Frank/oscar road wins.



Franks ability to win really hard road games is amazing. This chart is very miss leading to a degree, It does' show the quantity of different quality games. oscar has played a decent amount more of top 25 kenpom roadies. Where Frank played a fraction more of 100+ Kenpom road games. It isn't an apple to apple comparison.

So oscar has had more oppy's for high quality road wins, and managed to get fewer? Excellent point.

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« Reply #95 on: January 17, 2017, 11:49:34 AM »
#science

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« Reply #96 on: January 17, 2017, 11:52:20 AM »
Someone on twitter asked for a further break down of Frank/oscar road wins.



Franks ability to win really hard road games is amazing. This chart is very miss leading to a degree, It does' show the quantity of different quality games. oscar has played a decent amount more of top 25 kenpom roadies. Where Frank played a fraction more of 100+ Kenpom road games. It isn't an apple to apple comparison.

I put it in another thread, but 51% of Frank's road Big 12 games were top 50. 66% for oscar. 29% of Frank's were Top 25, 45% for oscar.

Still Frank over won half his road games. oscar is winning 26%, and that's after a 5-4 first year. And his win% vs all categories is way worse. oscar must get better at winning on the road, this year, to keep his job and be a viable Big 12 coach. Its really not even a debate.

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« Reply #97 on: January 17, 2017, 11:54:20 AM »
So oscar has had more oppy's for high quality road wins, and managed to get fewer? Excellent point.

Frank is WAY better in every category (except >100 wins).



oscar has no excuse. None.

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« Reply #98 on: January 17, 2017, 11:58:19 AM »
So oscar has had more oppy's for high quality road wins, and managed to get fewer? Excellent point.

Frank is WAY better in every category (except >100 wins).



oscar has no excuse. None.

It would read better if you broke down like. 1-10, 10-25, 25-50, 50-100. Then you have a better understanding of quality of games played.

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« Reply #99 on: January 17, 2017, 12:00:19 PM »


oscar has no excuse. None.

Oh I would be quite certain that he does. That's one thing he never runs out of.