Was This Season a Success?

[MakeItRain]

Well scott these games at home make it easier imo. Vandy is not that good.
Isu
Ou
Tcu
Wvu
Baylor (yes the will probably suck)

Vandy next season will be as good as Stanford was this year, if not better.

[Pett]

Yes. Winning the bowl game and nine games would change successful into very successful

9-4, possible top 25 finish, and a bowl victory.

[wetwillie]

should see a nice bump in recruiting from our on the field success this year.

[CHONGS]

lol

[Joker]

Also, finishing with 5 wins in our last 6 games and a nice bowl win puts us in position to have a nice 15-20 ranking to start next season. If we want to dream of being in playoff contention, starting ranked would be a really good thing for us.

Eh if we go 12-1 or 13-0 which we would have to to get in, being ranked to start the season won't matter. In 2011 we made it all the way from unranked to 12th before we lost to OU, and then after losing to OSU we battled from 17th back to 11th before the bowl game.

It matters a lot when you have multiple one loss teams.

It will always matter when perception factors into playoff decisions.  Imagine if Western Michigan had started the season ranked #10.

[kslim]

Well scott these games at home make it easier imo. Vandy is not that good.
Isu
Ou
Tcu
Wvu
Baylor (yes the will probably suck)

Vandy next season will be as good as Stanford was this year, if not better.

watched them play this year a couple of times. Hard disagree on this one

[EMAWican]

I'm optimistic and super excited to see what Snyder can do next year after this successful year. As for the bowl game, 1-6 in Snyder 2.0 Bowls helps remind me to look forward to next year.

[Emo EMAW]

The coaching staff was probably the biggest glaring weakness. 

[PurpleOil]

Yes. Winning the bowl game and nine games would change successful into very successful

9-4, possible top 25 finish, and a bowl victory.

I agree. A 9-4 season is a great metric for this program. 9+ is a success and anything below needs improvement. Not making a bowl game is a complete failure of a season.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The coaching staff was probably the biggest glaring weakness.

They are only going to be worse next year. Hopefully the team can improve enough to counteract that.

[KITNfury]

No doubt I get really mad at the coaching at times,  but honestly, how often do we lose to teams w/ lower athletic talent?  It's not often.

[bubbles4ksu]

No doubt I get really mad at the coaching at times,  but honestly, how often do we lose to teams w/ lower athletic talent?  It's not often.

but honestly, how many conference schools are stocked w/ lower athletic talent?

[kim carnes]

Our conference is a joke... so no

[420seriouscat69]

I'll tell you what wasn't a success, the continuation of our fans bitching all year and under appreciating this team. Looks like our LFIQ fan base continues to regress. 

[MakeItRain]

No doubt I get really mad at the coaching at times,  but honestly, how often do we lose to teams w/ lower athletic talent?  It's not often.

but honestly, how many conference schools are stocked w/ lower athletic talent?

We never lose to teams with "lower athletic talent" because there's usually only two of those in the conference and a handful nationwide in the P5.

[KITNfury]

No doubt I get really mad at the coaching at times,  but honestly, how often do we lose to teams w/ lower athletic talent?  It's not often.

but honestly, how many conference schools are stocked w/ lower athletic talent?

Thank you for making my point.  Our coaching is frustrating at times,  but we pretty much always beat those with less talent,  and often beat teams w/ more. There's a point where the talent level simply wins out.  So I guess my point is that it's fair to criticize the coaches for their generally crappy recruiting,  but development and play calling isn't really a legitimate gripe.  It (usually) works for the chess pieces we have on the board.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think most of the conference teams we are beating (maybe all of them) have less talent than we do.

[420seriouscat69]

I think most of the conference teams we are beating (maybe all of them) have less talent than we do.

Rivals disagrees

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think most of the conference teams we are beating (maybe all of them) have less talent than we do.

Rivals disagrees

The product on the field agrees.

[420seriouscat69]

And that's because of the coaches and their development of them. It's OK to admit this, guys.

[Emo EMAW]

I think their development of players is enough to overcome the recruiting.  But goddamn this staff sucks at in-game coaching and play calling.  It was a hindrance no doubt when it used to be a strength. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I do think it was pretty clear that we were bigger, faster, and stronger than West Virginia and we did manage to lose that game through poor play calling and special teams.

[michigancat]

I think their development of players is enough to overcome the recruiting.  But goddamn this staff sucks at in-game coaching and play calling.  It was a hindrance no doubt when it used to be a strength.

Yes. They are very good at finding/developing players but not good at strategy. Although both units improved significantly over the season. (And of course a ton of that is related to a front-loaded conference schedule).

[kim carnes]

We literally didn't beat a good team this year u losers

[kslim]

I think most of the conference teams we are beating (maybe all of them) have less talent than we do.

Rivals disagrees

we have been over this time and time again. Rivals is bullshit and using it in any argument makes you look Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)