LOL TRUMP

[Dugout DickStone]

He should run on a wall and say he is going to make the libs pay for it. That would really get a bunch of morons horned up and excited.

make bud light/disney/nfl/target pay for the wall

[Sandstone Outcropping]

It’s hard to tell if he’s so disconnected from reality that he believes that’s what gas costs or if he just assumes his base is that stupid.


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Whatever the gas price is, it should be cheaper. Once there was an America where a man could pick a few coins out of the ashtray of his Chevy and fill the tank to the brim. Until we get back to those days, it is proof that our country is. . . not Great and under attack by Enemies from Within. Very easy talking point for Trump to sell.

[sys]

one problem with running on building a wall on the southern border is that we've already built a wall on most of the southern border and biden is currently building even more wall right now.

[sys]

in reality, i don't think trump (or biden for that matter) will campaign on much of anything.  no one is particularly interested in hearing from them and both candidates have more downside than upside from additional exposure.

[mocat]

sys, people who are going to vote for trump believe that Biden is running an open border policy

[Rage Against the McKee]

sys, people who are going to vote for trump believe that Biden is running an open border policy

Yeah, they don't live in reality.

[Dugout DickStone]

caravan, lake houses, poop map etc.

[passranch]

re: gas prices though...it's funny to open up the gas buddy website and check the gas prices map around Needles, CA:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gaspricemap?lat=34.83186064946519&lng=-114.552467151814&z=12

$6.59 per gal in Needles, but drive less than two miles over to Arizona and you are paying less than half that for a gallon of gas.

[sys]

it's not very lol, and there's a lot of time for things to change and even some reason to think it's likely to.  but it's worth noticing that right now, one would have to say that trump looks more likely to win than lose in '24.

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1735389206669652234

[Pete]

It’s hard to tell if he’s so disconnected from reality that he believes that’s what gas costs or if he just assumes his base is that stupid.


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He never has to fact check.  They are that stupid.  It's like very young children.  You can tell a 4 year old that McDonalds is closed at 2 in the afternoon if you don't want to take them to McDonalds

This is apt.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

it's not very lol, and there's a lot of time for things to change and even some reason to think it's likely to.  but it's worth noticing that right now, one would have to say that trump looks more likely to win than lose in '24.

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1735389206669652234

That carries the implication that the Dems that disapprove of Biden - which presumably some of the folks polled in that pew research poll are Dems - disapprove of him so much that they are going to vote for trump

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Biden would lose to any non-Trump candidate.

[steve dave]

I think Biden would lose to any non-Trump candidate.

No doubt about it


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[cfbandyman]

sys, people who are going to vote for trump believe that Biden is running an open border policy

Yeah, they don't live in reality.

At all. The economy right now is pretty damn solid, inflation is in check, and for the most part people are doing better but to them it's all crashing down in flames.

[sys]

That carries the implication that the Dems that disapprove of Biden - which presumably some of the folks polled in that pew research poll are Dems - disapprove of him so much that they are going to vote for trump

biden trails trump by three points in an average of horserace polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

[sys]

I think Biden would lose to any non-Trump candidate.

i think it's important to note here that other democrats tested in polls do not poll better than biden.  it is not so much that biden is idiosyncratically unpopular.  it is that democrats are unpopular.

https://twitter.com/lxeagle17/status/1735345721661067524

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Newsome would become a lot more popular over the course of a campaign.

[steve dave]

I think Newsome would become a lot more popular over the course of a campaign.

He beat the living crap out of the one MAGA he debated


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[sys]

I think Newsome would become a lot more popular over the course of a campaign.

almost certainly the opposite would happen.  usually politicians are better known to voters of their own party than to voters of the opposite party, so as they become better known their approval numbers drop.

[Pete]

I think Biden would lose to any non-Trump candidate.

Anecdotal evidence….my college freshman daughter (VERY liberal) told me last night that if the GOP had a moderate candidate she would vote for them instead of Biden. 

[Pete]

I think Newsome would become a lot more popular over the course of a campaign.

almost certainly the opposite would happen.  usually politicians are better known to voters of their own party than to voters of the opposite party, so as they become better known their approval numbers drop.

Do we agree that approval numbers only matter relative to the party the candidate belongs to? No one gives a eff what their approval numbers are in the other party, do they?

[chum1]

I'm completely skeptical of the relationship between poll numbers and election results when they include Trump.

[CNS]

I'm completely skeptical of the relationship between poll numbers and election results when they include Trump.

I don’t think it’s just Trump. I think Trump happened along at the same time tech squashed traditional methods of polling for a large enough quantity of Americans to harm result accuracy.

[bucket]

I think Biden would lose to any non-Trump candidate.

No doubt about it


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https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1736475726369415676

Not under this scenario. Seems like something Trump would do.

[Pete]

I agree, but is there any scenario on earth where he doesn’t get the nomination?  All this continued energy used up covering the other candidates seems absurd to me.