The Trump Presidency

[Stupid Fitz]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

This is beautiful Chongs

[CNS]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

Bullshit. Voters have been gaslit, lied to, and splattered with so much rough ridin' bullshit that many were made to believe something not real. Others had their insecurities played upon to intentionally pull out hate, fear, and discontent solely for the purpose of gaining their vote.


Pretty much anyone with a functioning brain can see that. Trying to act like a mandate was gained is rough ridin' stupid. Conservatives need to be honest with themselves.

If only all those voters were as smart and discerning as CNS, right?

You saying I am incorrect and that trumps entire campaign wasn’t what I described? 

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

Bullshit. Voters have been gaslit, lied to, and splattered with so much rough ridin' bullshit that many were made to believe something not real. Others had their insecurities played upon to intentionally pull out hate, fear, and discontent solely for the purpose of gaining their vote.


Pretty much anyone with a functioning brain can see that. Trying to act like a mandate was gained is rough ridin' stupid. Conservatives need to be honest with themselves.

If only all those voters were as smart and discerning as CNS, right?

You saying I am incorrect and that trumps entire campaign wasn’t what I described?

I think he’s saying “I understood the choice I was making and I’m fine with it”

[nicname]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

I don’t think Dlew is a Christian nationalist.

I think small federal gov is best, yes. States can do most things.

[steve dave]

Justwin, going back to “majority of voters” v “is actually bad” isn’t a good argument. You’re smart as crap and I know you know this. People can dunk on dumb crap for being objectively dumb. MAGAs having voted for it shouldn’t stop you. It’s not (currently) illegal.


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[steve dave]

We can call this objectively bad even though lots of dumbfucks voted for it right?

https://x.com/davidinglestv/status/1886007653111140439?s=46


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[ben ji]

I really miss the last 4 years when I didn't have to wake up to headlines of the President tweeting random crap and just YOLO'n foreign policy. Is this all in the last week?!? I'm sure I'm missing some

- Trade war with Mexico/CANADA even though our current president renegotiated NAFTA/USMCA his last time in office.
- Lol Canada is our 51st state now
- DEI caused the plane crash in DC
- Opening some random sierra Nevada dams to send to water to the central valley they don't need and claiming its fighting the fires in LA.
- 10 other things I'm forgetting

[BIG APPLE CAT]

I really miss the last 4 years when I didn't have to wake up to headlines of the President tweeting random crap and just YOLO'n foreign policy. Is this all in the last week?!? I'm sure I'm missing some

- Trade war with Mexico/CANADA even though our current president renegotiated NAFTA/USMCA his last time in office.
- Lol Canada is our 51st state now
- DEI caused the plane crash in DC
- Opening some random sierra Nevada dams to send to water to the central valley they don't need and claiming its fighting the fires in LA.
- 10 other things I'm forgetting

Well, I’ma single issue voter here, so, what can ya do, yanno? Ho hum

[catastrophe]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

As far as I can tell, only Biden, Obama, and Trump had more votes than Harris in all US election history.

[Pete]

I’m cautiously optimistic about more tariffs. Particularly with China. I’m still at a loss about the Canadian tariffs and what the end game is with those.  This video by Maxinomics site, which is affiliated with the bipartisan “Morning Brew” market and economics podcasts, does a nice job outlining the case for tariffs.

https://youtu.be/5LJi6iFHqDc?si=ehoYBjAmLnejYqwA

I HOPE tariffs get used to boost GDP and help address the budget deficit instead of merely funding more tax cuts. I think we need to INCREASE taxes AND aggressively cut our costs, but almost no one has the stomach for that.

[Pete]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.

I have no idea if you are correct about Musk, but you are dead wrong about me. Free country tho.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I’m cautiously optimistic about more tariffs. Particularly with China. I’m still at a loss about the Canadian tariffs and what the end game is with those.  This video by Maxinomics site, which is affiliated with the bipartisan “Morning Brew” market and economics podcasts, does a nice job outlining the case for tariffs.

https://youtu.be/5LJi6iFHqDc?si=ehoYBjAmLnejYqwA

I HOPE tariffs get used to boost GDP and help address the budget deficit instead of merely funding more tax cuts. I think we need to INCREASE taxes AND aggressively cut our costs, but almost no one has the stomach for that.

These tariffs cut more revenue than they will create.

[Justwin]

Justwin, going back to “majority of voters” v “is actually bad” isn’t a good argument. You’re smart as crap and I know you know this. People can dunk on dumb crap for being objectively dumb. MAGAs having voted for it shouldn’t stop you. It’s not (currently) illegal.


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I do not think the tariffs are good and have never said so.

The response to the election and the consequences it is bringing of blaming voters and calling them dumb is not helpful and that kind of thinking will only perpetuate these kind of situations. Biden won the popular vote by 4.5% and Harris lost it by 1.5%. That is a huge shift, especially when the candidate that is benefitting is Donald Trump. The election was lost with independents and non-white voters. Why was the election lost with those voters?

[Justwin]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

As far as I can tell, only Biden, Obama, and Trump had more votes than Harris in all US election history.

I wonder why Harris got more votes than William McKinley did in 1900.

[Pete]

I’m cautiously optimistic about more tariffs. Particularly with China. I’m still at a loss about the Canadian tariffs and what the end game is with those.  This video by Maxinomics site, which is affiliated with the bipartisan “Morning Brew” market and economics podcasts, does a nice job outlining the case for tariffs.

https://youtu.be/5LJi6iFHqDc?si=ehoYBjAmLnejYqwA

I HOPE tariffs get used to boost GDP and help address the budget deficit instead of merely funding more tax cuts. I think we need to INCREASE taxes AND aggressively cut our costs, but almost no one has the stomach for that.

These tariffs cut more revenue than they will create.

I’m not convinced you are correct in the case of tariffs against China.  I suspect that it will take many years to find out either way.

[catastrophe]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

As far as I can tell, only Biden, Obama, and Trump had more votes than Harris in all US election history.

I wonder why Harris got more votes than William McKinley did in 1900.

Oh you’re right, only a dumbass would argue that a candidate had to be worse if they got fewer votes. My apologies.

[Justwin]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

As far as I can tell, only Biden, Obama, and Trump had more votes than Harris in all US election history.

I wonder why Harris got more votes than William McKinley did in 1900.

Oh you’re right, only a dumbass would argue that a candidate had to be worse if they got fewer votes. My apologies.

My contention would be that if you lose an election to Donald Trump, you're a terrible candidate.

[Pete]

I firmly agree that if you lose an election of Donald Trump, then you are a terrible candidate.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Donald Trump is more popular with Republicans than any other candidate has ever been.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Justwin, going back to “majority of voters” v “is actually bad” isn’t a good argument. You’re smart as crap and I know you know this. People can dunk on dumb crap for being objectively dumb. MAGAs having voted for it shouldn’t stop you. It’s not (currently) illegal.


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I do not think the tariffs are good and have never said so.

The response to the election and the consequences it is bringing of blaming voters and calling them dumb is not helpful and that kind of thinking will only perpetuate these kind of situations. Biden won the popular vote by 4.5% and Harris lost it by 1.5%. That is a huge shift, especially when the candidate that is benefitting is Donald Trump. The election was lost with independents and non-white voters. Why was the election lost with those voters?

I don't think his voters are called dumb often enough, and when they end up unemployed, it will be very important to remind them that this is entirely their own fault and that they shouldn't expect any assistance.

[mocat]

Donald Trump is more popular with Republicans than any other candidate has ever been.

True but it's also true that trump went crazy with Latinos and young white males who had not previously been part of the Republican base

[Pete]

I am really trying to spend a lot more energy, trying to identify things that I have in common with others of different ideologies, and trying to avoid my mind, closing shut to an idea merely because of where it came from.

Hate is a very strong word, and that is why I use it to describe my feelings about Donald Trump. I hate him as a person.  I also DISAGREE with the majority of his policies. However, from time to time, I am observing that he makes a decision or engages in a policy where I have common cause. most of the time when this happens I know that his motivation and my own motivation are starkly different. I have made the decision that good acts are not determined by good intentions, and instead are determined by good outcomes. That’s my personal choice. John Stuart Mill’s philosophies and “rules based utilitarianism” is what I favor.

[sonofdaxjones]

Some absolutely amazing money laundering operations being exposed.

Guys . . . USAID and NED (and others) were massive money laundering schemes and I just want to congratulate #blueanon in particular for not only keeping the cash flowing to their most favored in that tangled web, but also bringing in the anti-Trump neocons into the fold as well.  While also latching yourself to THE LORD ALMIGHTY by funneling collectively billions to religious based human smugglers.

[catastrophe]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

As far as I can tell, only Biden, Obama, and Trump had more votes than Harris in all US election history.

I wonder why Harris got more votes than William McKinley did in 1900.

Oh you’re right, only a dumbass would argue that a candidate had to be worse if they got fewer votes. My apologies.

My contention would be that if you lose an election to Donald Trump, you're a terrible candidate.

Ah ok, so even dumber than my thing then. Apology retracted.

[LickNeckey]

I am really trying to spend a lot more energy, trying to identify things that I have in common with others of different ideologies, and trying to avoid my mind, closing shut to an idea merely because of where it came from.

Hate is a very strong word, and that is why I use it to describe my feelings about Donald Trump. I hate him as a person.  I also DISAGREE with the majority of his policies. However, from time to time, I am observing that he makes a decision or engages in a policy where I have common cause. most of the time when this happens I know that his motivation and my own motivation are starkly different. I have made the decision that good acts are not determined by good intentions, and instead are determined by good outcomes. That’s my personal choice. John Stuart Mill’s philosophies and “rules based utilitarianism” is what I favor.

I myself am actively trying to engage in political communications irl that are centered around our shared agreements