The Trump Presidency

[Justwin]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

[Rage Against the McKee]

They voted for him over all the other Republican candidates, too. His supporters absolutely love him.

[Justwin]

A number of you have accused me of being a Trump guy or Rogan guy or (insert whatever right wing name you find offensive) guy. Three things have impacted my political opinions enormously over the last 8 years.

1. The national debt:  Our national debt is very close to the point interest payments will exceed our revenue. This could easily lead to an Argentinian style hyper inflationary mess. This is very very dangerous. Cuts must be made to spending, AND taxes must be increased.  Spending cuts are more effective than taxes, but both are necessary.  I believe the democrats to be too weak to make spending cuts…they are incapable of making tough decisions…too fearful of scorn from very small groups.

2. Risk from international enemies: Russia’s invasion of Ukraine shook me up. For a very long time I personally laughed at the idea that large countries would engage in wars of conquest. I thought that time was behind us as a species. I was wrong. The world is more dangerous than it has ever been. With resources coming under increased contention and changes occurring rapidly to our planet environment, nations are acting more and more out of self interest in very aggressive ways. We need to continue to have a strong defense and take no steps backward and the quality and effectiveness of our defense however, because of our need to cut costs, we need to do this in new ways that cost much less than the legacy defense contractors, the old guard of both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are 100% in bed with legacy defense contractors. The military industrial complex is currently in place though there are some who are making dents in it Elon Musk and other tech leaders have demonstrated that they can produce results and a fraction of the cost of the legacy defense contractors. We need vastly more of this. This is very scary to the legacy defense contractors who have run this country since Eisenhower’s warnings years ago…. The legacy defense contractors will fight this with everything that they have the Democrat Democrats do not have the spine to fight them and the legacy Republicans are bought and paid for by them already. We need new thinking in this area.

3. Risk of AI: I believe that we cannot stop AI from advancing. The recent Chinese Deep Seek advancements demonstrate this.  My belief is that eventually whoever controls the alignment of AI will control all within domain of a given AI. I do not like this.  I accept this. I want the “controller” to be the United States of America (and its corporations) rather than China, Russia, etc.  America’s comparative advantage over our foes is our vigorous market economy. In order for us to win, we need to lean on our comparative advantage and unleash capitalism to drive AI innovation and stay ahead of our foes.  Joe Biden‘s administration attempted to limit all United States efforts in this area to just a handful of companies in which they could maneuver and create regulatory capture. They wanted to fight China with Chinese style tactics. We will not beat China using Chinese style tactics. We will not beat China at China’s game. We must play America’s game. The Democrats have demonstrated that they are in opposition to this and as a result, they lost the support of Silicon Valley in the last election.


To sum up, the Democrats are feckless failures and half the Republicans are bought and paid for by the defense industry. Unfortunately, at the present time, the other half of the Republicans are bigoted fucks. It’s a crap situation. I’m making my choices on what is most likely to allow America to persevere, and by extension the notion of democracy to persevere. The freest countries on the face of the Earth are NATO countries and I don’t expect that to change while America is in charge, and that’s what I support.

I do not disagree with any of your concerns, especially in regards to the annual deficit and national debt.

Where are you seeing that net interest outlays are projected to exceed revenue soon? The most recent (March 2024) CBO long-term budget outlook that projects out to 2054 has revenue at 18.8% of GDP and net interest outlays at 6.3% of GDP in 2054.

[CNS]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

Sounds like you are a proud member of the “as long as it hurts someone” party. Good for you. Sleep well.

[Stupid Fitz]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

Sounds like you are a proud member of the “as long as it hurts someone” party. Good for you. Sleep well.

that is like 90+ percent of them. As long as those 7 Guatemalan dudes got sent packing, it's all worth it!!!!!

I just rough ridin' love how now he is admitting that there will be pain. Guess who will and won't feel said pain??? Well, he, Elon and all of the other billionaires pulling the strings sure as eff won't. I can tell you that much. Totally going to be worth it though you guys!!!!

[CHONGS]

I believe this is the point when they tell you not to worry about earthly things.

[chum1]

Everyone relax. Our negotiating savant knows exactly what he's doing.

[CNS]

Canada has nothing we want! 


Please become a state!

What a dipshit.

[Rage Against the McKee]

https://x.com/LarryPfeifferDC/status/1885907951132484026

[Rage Against the McKee]

Man, these people really hate women.

[sonofdaxjones]

Insteresting coming from the political movement who worked quadruple time to shove women off the podium every chance they could . . .

[wetwillie]

Looks like Panama bent the knee

[Sandstone Outcropping]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

Will there be some pain? YES!
Will there be pain experienced by myself? NO!

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Everyone relax. Our negotiating savant knows exactly what he's doing.

Is it weird that the guy who claims to hate NeoCon warmongers is threatening to drive a peaceful neighboring country and valuable trading partner out of existence? Is this another “seriously but not literally” thingy?

[Justwin]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

Will there be some pain? YES!
Will there be pain experienced by myself? NO!

I'm pretty confident that the tariffs that are being implemented, and the retaliatory tariffs that are coming, are going to cause some pain for everyone, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

The point still stands that the majority of American 2024 voters prefer this to what Democrats were offering. There was little question Trump would implement tariffs if elected and people still chose him. Rather than engage in a lot of introspection and self-reflection on why so many voters were turned off to Democrats, my observation has been that Democrats have been blaming the voters and other external factors. As long as that continues, results like Donald Trump being elected president are going to continue as well.

[Rage Against the McKee]

imagine you voted for this guy

Imagine your brand and candidate is so terrible people would vote for this guy over your party's candidate.

Will there be some pain? YES!
Will there be pain experienced by myself? NO!

I'm pretty confident that the tariffs that are being implemented, and the retaliatory tariffs that are coming, are going to cause some pain for everyone, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

The point still stands that the majority of American 2024 voters prefer this to what Democrats were offering. There was little question Trump would implement tariffs if elected and people still chose him. Rather than engage in a lot of introspection and self-reflection on why so many voters were turned off to Democrats, my observation has been that Democrats have been blaming the voters and other external factors. As long as that continues, results like Donald Trump being elected president are going to continue as well.

I think most of his voters just need to live in the shithole county he's creating for a couple of years to really appreciate how good the Biden years were.

[CHONGS]

Yeah but Black people were flying airplanes and trans people existed in public, so it was a hell on earth.

[wetwillie]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

[mocat]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

it's just the price of doing business*




*being a single issue voter

[Justwin]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

Because stupid people deserve bad things.

[Stupid Fitz]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

So they really are just hateful rough ridin' morons?

[CNS]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

Bullshit. Voters have been gaslit, lied to, and splattered with so much rough ridin' bullshit that many were made to believe something not real. Others had their insecurities played upon to intentionally pull out hate, fear, and discontent solely for the purpose of gaining their vote.


Pretty much anyone with a functioning brain can see that. Trying to act like a mandate was gained is rough ridin' stupid. Conservatives need to be honest with themselves.

[Justwin]

Why do we need this pain exactly?

We don't!

But voters still think it's better than a Democrat being president.

Bullshit. Voters have been gaslit, lied to, and splattered with so much rough ridin' bullshit that many were made to believe something not real. Others had their insecurities played upon to intentionally pull out hate, fear, and discontent solely for the purpose of gaining their vote.


Pretty much anyone with a functioning brain can see that. Trying to act like a mandate was gained is rough ridin' stupid. Conservatives need to be honest with themselves.

If only all those voters were as smart and discerning as CNS, right?

[CHONGS]

When the ends justify the means, the amount of pain and suffering is immaterial.

Trump's genius is that he presents himself as the means to an end for so many groups of people. 

For Justinwin and dlew and Americans Christians he's the means to bring about the kingdom of heaven or the return of Christian authority over the world.

For Musk and Pete he's the means to bring about the singularity and the end of democracy which they feel hinders the progress of technology.


For nicname et al he's the kindling to burn it all down and start fresh to establish some libertarian utopia.

For dax he's the means to punish his political opponents and expose whatever insane conspiracies he's latched onto.

For purplewood it's the chance to dangle from dax's balls like a tick.