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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2375 on: February 22, 2017, 01:50:23 PM »
There are many, and I'm sure they're well covered on this bbs. To name three: 1) so-called "prosecutorial discretion" is an actual afront on checks and balances, and utter bullshit as any 8th grade B- civics student could tell you; 2) the use of the administrative state to attack and obstruct unfavored industry had substantial adverse effect on the local, state and regional economy; 3) the constant demonizing and pitting of the "rich" against the whoever is the not rich.

I've not seen Trump to anything to counter these three items.  #2 & #3 he has done a very poor job given his attacking of industry and companies he doesn't like and his empty mantras of washington elite, drain the swamp, and forgotten coal miners

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I'm not going to get into this beyond that, because, frankly, it's a waste of my time. I just have to laugh at people worried about Donald denigrating the office when president partisan platitude was out there doing the same exact crap, albeit in the tenor of a far left senator rather than a talk show host.

It didn't seem like a waste of time...it was a chance to actually state where you are seeing positive in Trump so far...but let's be honest, you didn't care to do that.

Well, you're unquestionably wrong on both points, and I'm not going to waste time arguing the obvious.

One example of each....Or just an early tapout for FSD?

Now I'm not even sure what you're arguing about.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2376 on: February 22, 2017, 02:11:52 PM »
Action of where Trump after in a way that made you give those three topics as where you've seen Trump improve. For #2 and 3 all I can think of is where he has been horrible.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2377 on: February 22, 2017, 02:45:40 PM »
If there is any class of people that are the true victims of history, it is the rich.

Wait, so you guys think it's okay to demogogue a certain demographic so long as they aren't a "true victim of history"?  That's pretty shitty doods, but try this one:

I'm not asian, so does that mean I can't oppose discrimination against asians?

Will someone finally take a stand and speak up for the rich? Fake Sugar Dick may just be the man for the job.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2378 on: February 22, 2017, 03:35:52 PM »
If there is any class of people that are the true victims of history, it is the rich.

Wait, so you guys think it's okay to demogogue a certain demographic so long as they aren't a "true victim of history"?  That's pretty shitty doods, but try this one:

I'm not asian, so does that mean I can't oppose discrimination against asians?

Will someone finally take a stand and speak up for the rich? Fake Sugar Dick may just be the man for the job.

Hugo Chavez supporter, outed.  This line of dialogue is what I meant by "waste of my time" ftr. So rough ridin' stupid.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2379 on: February 22, 2017, 03:37:00 PM »
Action of where Trump after in a way that made you give those three topics as where you've seen Trump improve. For #2 and 3 all I can think of is where he has been horrible.

2) see scott pruitt thread
3) you can't be serious
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2380 on: February 22, 2017, 04:43:18 PM »
The constant drone of "the rich don't pay their fair share, they hold you down, etc" really wasn't doing anyone any benefits. Seeing yourself as a victim isn't really a likely way to get ahead in life.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2381 on: February 22, 2017, 04:55:36 PM »
Stop acknowledging the "rich are victims" albatross, nobody is saying that, it's a glib substanceless comeback to a valid point about how inappropriate it is for a public figure to repeatedly blame and demonize a segment of society for the wholly unrelated plight of another.  It's awful and nobody should support that.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2382 on: February 22, 2017, 05:02:14 PM »
Action of where Trump after in a way that made you give those three topics as where you've seen Trump improve. For #2 and 3 all I can think of is where he has been horrible.

2) see scott pruitt thread
3) you can't be serious

Trump has only tried a drive a bigger wedge between the rich/elite/powerful vs the nots...Bonus points for him ignoring the irony.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2383 on: February 22, 2017, 06:18:38 PM »
Stop acknowledging the "rich are victims" albatross, nobody is saying that, it's a glib substanceless comeback to a valid point about how inappropriate it is for a public figure to repeatedly blame and demonize a segment of society for the wholly unrelated plight of another.  It's awful and nobody should support that.

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« Reply #2384 on: February 22, 2017, 06:30:52 PM »
The constant drone of "the rich don't pay their fair share, they hold you down, etc" really wasn't doing anyone any benefits. Seeing yourself as a victim isn't really a likely way to get ahead in life.

You are describing a bizzaro world that doesn't exist.

We live in a world where a sitting Senator tweeted:

https://twitter.com/senatormcdaniel/status/833899894851194881

We are talking about a world where a group of Kansas lawmakers were so obsessively angry about welfare benefits that they attempted to directly give taxpayer money over to ATM fees to make some bizarre point about poor people's profligacy at the same time boat taxes and LLC pass-through income was exempted. The only thing that stopped them was the threat of losing any federal aid for the benefits due to their insane reckless indifference to the lives of the least of us.

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article29979009.html

The indignities imposed upon the rich in this country are not onerous, practically the only class consciousness we have in this society is the rich that are paranoid about "class warfare." 

The indignities imposed upon our poor are numerous and telling about our values.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2385 on: February 22, 2017, 08:46:33 PM »
Taking money from one person and giving it to another is always going to be a point of contention, dumbfucks.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2386 on: February 22, 2017, 08:47:43 PM »
Stop acknowledging the "rich are victims" albatross, nobody is saying that, it's a glib substanceless comeback to a valid point about how inappropriate it is for a public figure to repeatedly blame and demonize a segment of society for the wholly unrelated plight of another.  It's awful and nobody should support that.

lol

lol
Didn't realize you were one of "those" people.  :buh-bye:
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2387 on: February 22, 2017, 09:03:07 PM »
Action of where Trump after in a way that made you give those three topics as where you've seen Trump improve. For #2 and 3 all I can think of is where he has been horrible.

2) see scott pruitt thread
3) you can't be serious

Trump has only tried a drive a bigger wedge between the rich/elite/powerful vs the nots...Bonus points for him ignoring the irony.

What fantasy are you living in?
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2388 on: February 22, 2017, 10:03:27 PM »
Taking money from one person and giving it to another is always going to be a point of contention, dumbfucks.

Stop acknowledging the "rich are victims" albatross, nobody is saying that, it's a glib substanceless comeback to a valid point about how inappropriate it is for a public figure to repeatedly blame and demonize a segment of society for the wholly unrelated plight of another.  It's awful and nobody should support that.

lol

lol
Didn't realize you were one of "those" people.  :buh-bye:

You literally posted these back-to-back.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2389 on: February 22, 2017, 10:10:07 PM »
You think the government takes money from poor people and gives it to rich people? That's a hot take
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« Reply #2390 on: February 22, 2017, 10:16:07 PM »
You think the government takes money from poor people and gives it to rich people? That's a hot take

Sir, all segments of society are wholly unrelated to each other.

That is a fact and I don't know why you are talking about stupid hypotheticals.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2391 on: February 22, 2017, 10:18:29 PM »
State welfare is absolutely money taken from one segment of society and given to another.
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« Reply #2392 on: February 22, 2017, 10:19:01 PM »
That is a fact
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« Reply #2393 on: February 22, 2017, 10:19:38 PM »
Action of where Trump after in a way that made you give those three topics as where you've seen Trump improve. For #2 and 3 all I can think of is where he has been horrible.

2) see scott pruitt thread
3) you can't be serious

Trump has only tried a drive a bigger wedge between the rich/elite/powerful vs the nots...Bonus points for him ignoring the irony.

What fantasy are you living in?

Did you miss the drain the swamp / Washington elites pledge?  All the while filling his cabinet with said elites?  I'm happy to hear where I'm wrong here.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2394 on: February 22, 2017, 10:24:52 PM »
That's not even remotely the same thing as what I'm talking about.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2395 on: February 22, 2017, 10:30:49 PM »
It's these sorts of terrible analogies, absurd tangents and baseless talking points (i.e., twitter memes) that are such a waste of time.

Just say what you want I don't want. Don't compare the "1%er" bullshit with "draining the swamp". I can't even begin to aeticulate how dissapointed I am with you for making that false analogy. :nono:
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2396 on: February 22, 2017, 10:31:30 PM »
so the plight of poor people is related to other segments of society?

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2397 on: February 22, 2017, 10:36:02 PM »
so the plight of poor people is related to other segments of society?

The poor or the not rich? I think you're lost in some socratic non sequitur.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2398 on: February 22, 2017, 10:43:02 PM »
so the plight of poor people is related to other segments of society?

The poor or the not rich? I think you're lost in some socratic non sequitur.

You won't defend yourself on any merits because your insane statement wasn't important at all. You don't even take your own rhetoric seriously.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2399 on: February 22, 2017, 10:44:29 PM »
You want to further restrict and restrain money people earn, but oppose any restraint or restriction on money given to people who don't earn it. Do you realize how perverse that is?
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