The Trump Presidency

[Dugout DickStone]

Don literally flushed presidential documents down the  like a drunken buddy of mine flushed his drawers down my toilet.  LOL

old people do stuff like that

[sonofdaxjones]

The Sandy Berger comes in many forms

[LickNeckey]

wasn't sandy criminally charged and disbarred?

[sonofdaxjones]

wasn't sandy criminally charged and disbarred?

Maybe so, but at the time per #proglib (now #blueanon) it was no big deal.  So the same thing as destroying evidence and getting a US ambassador killed.   No big deal.

[sonofdaxjones]

wasn't sandy criminally charged and disbarred?

Maybe so, but at the time per #proglib (now #blueanon) it was no big deal.  So the same thing as destroying evidence and getting a US ambassador killed.   No big deal.

BTW Lick, I know that this is just impossible to believe.  But the DOJ didn’t think it was a big deal either.  Shocking I know.   

It took a congressional review to get to the bottom of the situation and discover Berger lied to the DOJ.

Berger also failed to disclose that a bad thing happened.  The Chinese stole our nuclear warhead designs.   Not a biggie though.  Just nuclear weapons.




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[Phil Titola]

Dax you shouldn't be defending this berger guy. You have your hands full with the news of this decade.

[sonofdaxjones]

Berger set precedent, Phil.  Per ProgLib (now #blueanon) - no big deal

And I agree, as we continue to see, there isn’t a dictatorship/corrupt oligarchy  across Eurasia that Biden Family Inc won’t do business with.

[LickNeckey]

wasn't sandy criminally charged and disbarred?

Maybe so, but at the time per #proglib (now #blueanon) it was no big deal.  So the same thing as destroying evidence and getting a US ambassador killed.   No big deal.

BTW Lick, I know that this is just impossible to believe.  But the DOJ didn’t think it was a big deal either.  Shocking I know.   

It took a congressional review to get to the bottom of the situation and discover Berger lied to the DOJ.

Berger also failed to disclose that a bad thing happened.  The Chinese stole our nuclear warhead designs.   Not a biggie though.  Just nuclear weapons.




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https://irp.fas.org/congress/2007_rpt/berger.pdf

This seems to indicate the Berger made his last visit October 2nd and by October 15th DoJ accepted a crimininal refferal and began investigation.

Berger plead guilty 18 months later...

[LickNeckey]

precedent indeed...

[sonofdaxjones]

wasn't sandy criminally charged and disbarred?

Maybe so, but at the time per #proglib (now #blueanon) it was no big deal.  So the same thing as destroying evidence and getting a US ambassador killed.   No big deal.

BTW Lick, I know that this is just impossible to believe.  But the DOJ didn’t think it was a big deal either.  Shocking I know.   

It took a congressional review to get to the bottom of the situation and discover Berger lied to the DOJ.

Berger also failed to disclose that a bad thing happened.  The Chinese stole our nuclear warhead designs.   Not a biggie though.  Just nuclear weapons.




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https://irp.fas.org/congress/2007_rpt/berger.pdf

This seems to indicate the Berger made his last visit October 2nd and by October 15th DoJ accepted a crimininal refferal and began investigation.

Berger plead guilty 18 months later...

Where did the criminal referral come from, Lick?


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[LickNeckey]

Inspector General of the National Archives

[Phil Titola]

Dax over here common grounding Trump should be charged with crimes.  Glad to see us come together like this. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Inspector General of the National Archives

Correct.   After the DOJ failed to do their job.  Lanny Davis was of course involved, calling everyone a liar.

Lanny Davis, Marc Elias - you guys cling to some real goons.  Props!

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax over here common grounding Trump should be charged with crimes.  Glad to see us come together like this.

No big deal (ProgLibs now #blueanon)

[LickNeckey]

Inspector General of the National Archives

Correct.   After the DOJ failed to do their job.  Lanny Davis was of course involved, calling everyone a liar.

Lanny Davis, Marc Elias - you guys cling to some real goons.  Props!

when was doj involved prior to IG referral?

the report is highly critical of archivists who did not follow proper procedures and led to sweeping changes of protocol

but yes i agree that people that break the law should be held accountable

[sonofdaxjones]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

[Dugout DickStone]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

Laser like focus on the proper thread

[sonofdaxjones]

Inspector General of the National Archives

Correct.   After the DOJ failed to do their job.  Lanny Davis was of course involved, calling everyone a liar.

Lanny Davis, Marc Elias - you guys cling to some real goons.  Props!

when was doj involved prior to IG referral?

the report is highly critical of archivists who did not follow proper procedures and led to sweeping changes of protocol

but yes i agree that people that break the law should be held accountable

You’re getting caught up in trying to throw some $64k a year archivists under the bus?  LOL, okay

The 9/11 commission wrote a report that states that the DOJ could not ensure that they had recovered all documents and cast doubt as to whether the DOJ was fully aware of the extent of Berger’s  theft.

The DOJ first believed Berger.  Then their hand was forced.

[sonofdaxjones]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

Laser like focus on the proper thread

Lol at one of the boards primary #deflectobots


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[LickNeckey]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

interesting way of saying "i was wrong and didn't know what i was talking about"

but whatever

[sonofdaxjones]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

interesting way of saying "i was wrong and didn't know what i was talking about"

but whatever

As usual the person who is wrong is you.

Also, Berger was not disbarred, he voluntarily relinquished his license.

Lick: Always wrong

[LickNeckey]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

interesting way of saying "i was wrong and didn't know what i was talking about"

but whatever

As usual the person who is wrong is you.

Also, Berger was not disbarred, he voluntarily relinquished his license.

Lick: Always wrong

By giving up his license, Berger avoided cross-examination by the Bar Counsel regarding details of his thefts.

[LickNeckey]

also i wouldn't really worry about it

no one here will respect you less because of this embarrassment.

[sonofdaxjones]

Anything to deflect from the crap Show currently in the White House I suppose.

interesting way of saying "i was wrong and didn't know what i was talking about"

but whatever

As usual the person who is wrong is you.

Also, Berger was not disbarred, he voluntarily relinquished his license.

Lick: Always wrong

By giving up his license, Berger avoided cross-examination by the Bar Counsel regarding details of his thefts.

Lacking the desire to defend oneself and thus relinquishing a license voluntarily is not disbarment.

The 9-11 commission was less than pleased with the DOJ, and believed that Berger had stolen additional non copied documents.   It was a total failure by the DOJ and they were forced to do something only after the IG and congress were engaged.

The fact that you're trying to throw some a archivists under the bus is just 

This is just a terrible look  for always wrong LickNeckey.  Sad

[LickNeckey]

"The National Archives has asked the Department of Justice to investigate former President Donald Trump's handling of White House records, according to a source familiar with the matter."

oh man it really is a Sandy Berger!