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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2016, 02:34:00 PM »
We're a bad team.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2016, 02:41:45 PM »

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #102 on: October 17, 2016, 04:34:37 PM »
I liked it when Kendall Adams almost killed that WR, and earlier in the game when he dropped Baker like rock. I also liked it when Elijah Lee almost killed Mixon. Our defense is pretty fun and i think we start like 6 frosh and soph.

On offense, I don't think we should do read option with a qb who cant do it. I like the quick passes, because we have recievers who can make plays when they catch the ball and the throw isnt garbage.

Joe Hubener should be battering ram only, and should be forbidden from ever checking into a pass again.

Are we blaming Hubes for checking into a pass on 4th and 2?

Yes, that was a ridiculous check.  I suppose we could blame the incompletion on the egregious hold on Pringle, but the throw was so bad it wouldn't have mattered.

coaches get no blame here? Just the refs and Hubes?

If he had ran the play called (almost certainly weak side qb option) and it failed, yeah, blame the coaches. But he checked into a hitch and spiked the ball into the turf, after the reciever had his hitch  impaired because the corner was pulling on his jersey.
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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2016, 04:37:33 PM »
On the plus side, our numbers should improve because we've played 2 or the 3 best teams (otr) already.
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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2016, 06:25:03 PM »
Update!


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2016, 06:28:37 PM »
that solid blue across the bottom jumps out a bit

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2016, 08:35:35 PM »
Dana is running a train on the conference.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2016, 10:38:59 PM »
that solid blue across the bottom jumps out a bit

Thought that was the totals line for a sec.
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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2016, 08:30:28 AM »
Same data, different sort:


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2016, 08:36:03 AM »
ave start needs to get better, but I bet that's because our offense sucks on our own side of the field.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #110 on: October 24, 2016, 08:41:35 AM »
ave start needs to get better, but I bet that's because our offense sucks on our own side of the field.

True. Right now our defense and special teams both rank in the top 30 nationally, but our offense is sitting in the 80s. PPP and PPD took a decent hit with those three 2nd half turnovers last week though. We were on pace for a significant bump until those happened, the first half was some of the best offense we've seen this year.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #111 on: October 24, 2016, 08:43:26 AM »
our receivers are good (relative) imo. we need to find a way to get them the ball more. like 'zooka joe is not an option here. ertz is kinda good at the short throw but just terrible at long/medium ones, maybe because he throwing muscles and bones are trashed. what the hell do we do?

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #112 on: October 24, 2016, 08:45:31 AM »
our receivers are good (relative) imo. we need to find a way to get them the ball more. like 'zooka joe is not an option here. ertz is kinda good at the short throw but just terrible at long/medium ones, maybe because he throwing muscles and bones are trashed. what the hell do we do?
Ertz kind of has the Klein thing where he throws a fairly accurate <15 yard ball, but it takes an eternity for the pass to get there.


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #113 on: October 24, 2016, 08:53:13 AM »
our receivers are good (relative) imo. we need to find a way to get them the ball more. like 'zooka joe is not an option here. ertz is kinda good at the short throw but just terrible at long/medium ones, maybe because he throwing muscles and bones are trashed. what the hell do we do?

I agree that our receivers are better, but they have some significant drops, so its not all on Ertz. Ertz had a great deeper throw to Pringle down the sideline last week that would have been a tough catch, but should have been made (for example). Though it wouldn't have made a huge difference, we had several drops against OU too.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #114 on: October 24, 2016, 09:03:14 AM »
Ertz has no rotator cuff guys.


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2016, 10:25:59 AM »
Offense is showing improvement, defense is moving down.


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2016, 10:58:24 AM »
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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2016, 06:22:46 PM »
Updated Big 12 numbers (Big 12 games only).




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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #118 on: October 30, 2016, 06:35:46 PM »
Those YPP #'s. Barf.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #119 on: October 30, 2016, 06:42:15 PM »
Ertz has no rotator cuff guys.


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So, do you really need one of those things to throw the ball?  Maybe Ertz should just man the eff up like Grant Gregory did...

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #120 on: October 30, 2016, 08:03:17 PM »
I'll give him credit, much more zip yesterday


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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #121 on: October 30, 2016, 08:13:48 PM »
Worth mentioning that if Burton had a more typical day, Ertz's numbers would have looked much worse.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #122 on: October 30, 2016, 08:15:05 PM »
Worth mentioning that if Burton had a more typical day, Ertz's numbers would have looked much worse.

I don't understand this logic. Players/coaches/schemes tend to get better, especially with a 1st year QB.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #123 on: October 30, 2016, 08:48:24 PM »
That may be true generally, but if I'm correct that Burton's performance was atypical, then by definition that general rule doesn't apply here.

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Re: Better or not?
« Reply #124 on: October 30, 2016, 09:03:10 PM »
That may be true generally, but if I'm correct that Burton's performance was atypical, then by definition that general rule doesn't apply here.

But what is your point? Are you just wanting Burton's "typical day" to fit your narrative that this offense sucks and are implying that in your opinion Burton had a "lucky day" so therefore the offense really does suck?

He had 5 catches. Against Stanford, OU, and Tech he had 4 catches in each game. He had 3 games with 5 catches last year. This game isn't some outlier, its not some guy like Reuter having 5 catches out of nowhere. Burton is a decent receiver who is more than capable of having a good game if the defense allows it and he did.