Fire Dimel

[Rage Against the McKee]

OSU hiring Venables wouldn't really be Currie's fault. Our fanbase would never let Currie get away with firing LHC Bill Snyder. This is all LHC Bill Snyder's fault. Bill's and our fanbase's faults, anyway.

[_33]

Well, we're family, and family always families as a family.  #family

[TheHamburglar]

Dimel's going to be calling plays for Bill's last home game in late November 2017 in front of 7,000 empty seats.

#family

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Lol at this whole article, but I especially liked this quote.  Yes, I know what he meant.

“As a whole, we had communication problems,” running back Charles Jones said. “Signaling plays late, audibling plays late, terrible clock management, not getting on the ball fast enough, which is what coach (Bill) Snyder preaches.

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-10-02/k-state-offense-plagued-communication-problems#

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Lol at this too.

K-State ran the ball up to the 33 a couple plays later, but then went for a pass on third down instead of running more clock or centering up the ball for a field goal.

“We were trying to get the first down,” Snyder said. “I was contemplating, and (the coaches) wanted to go for it. I was fine. I didn’t want to throw an interception. I was contemplating centering the ball up. (McCrane’s) a pretty doggone good kicker. Stuff happens. That’s one mistake and there’s not a guy on the field that made less than one mistake.”

McCrane said he actually preferred the ball not be in the middle of the field, and likes it more on either hash.

http://themercury.com/articles/wide-left-cats-lose-tight-game-at-wvu-17-16

[Tobias]

[catastrophe]

I've hear a lot of kickers are that way. When you practice field goals ever-y-day, lining up from either hash should not be a problem.

[Steffy08]

McCrane hits a slice ball, so the optimal place for him is actually right hash.

Him attempting from the left hash is akin to a right-handed golfer who hits a fade trying to hit the fairway on a dogleg left.  The margin for error is reduced.

It's a small thing, but I would guess that right-hash v. left hash for McCrane is a difference of 5-10 percentage points on a 42 yard field goal.  And, of course, when you miss by 2 feet, it makes you wonder.

[kslim]

holy crap, who gives a eff? he should have never been in that position in the first place. the premise of this thread is to fire our idiot coaches that don't understand the game of football

[ChiComCat]

WVU's defense gave up 30+ to BYU and we can only manage 17.  Just awful.

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The funny parts of the hash thing are that bill had no say in what "the coaches" decided to do, and that if he had, he'd have made things worse because he doesn't know his players. Stop analyzing hash logistics. eff.

[ChiComCat]

If the kicker can't make it because of the hash, then we shouldn't be kicking the damn FG

[MadCat]

#hashgate

[kso_FAN]

My frustration with Dimel has mainly come the last two seasons. His offenses have been fine for the most part during Snyder 2 when you look at the efficiency numbers. Its just strange that we finally build a good defense (credit to Hayes, who most wanted fired the last couple of years) and now our offense is terrible.

Also, this is a prime example of when Snyder's "we don't allow the coaches to talk" policy is really messed up. We send the junior in college who is our kicker out to the media, but not the OC(s) whose offense stunk up the 2nd half. That isn't right.

[ChiComCat]

We need to protect the guys getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[massofcatfan]

Fire Dimel; Fire Hays.

Three of the more frustrating losses I can remember as a long kstater came in the last twelve months:  Osu and TCU last year, WVU this year.  Led at half in all three....didn't we used to be good at that?

[yoga-like_abana]

I knew we were mumped when it was 3rd and 2 and we ran that slant route to heath..  We have no sort of rhythm between QB and wide outs and should've been able to pick that up easily on the ground.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I actually really liked running the slant there. Heath was wide open. We should have been running that on every first down until they stopped blitzing up the middle, too. Nothing is easy on the ground when the defense stacks the box and run blitzes. Instead we kept checking into 20 yard bombs down the sideline that Ertz had to chuck up off of his back foot.

[MakeItRain]

My frustration with Dimel has mainly come the last two seasons. His offenses have been fine for the most part during Snyder 2 when you look at the efficiency numbers. Its just strange that we finally build a good defense (credit to Hayes, who most wanted fired the last couple of years) and now our offense is terrible.

Also, this is a prime example of when Snyder's "we don't allow the coaches to talk" policy is really messed up. We send the junior in college who is our kicker out to the media, but not the OC(s) whose offense stunk up the 2nd half. That isn't right.

This is all good stuff but our offense was just as terrible in the first half, as far as game plan goes, as it was in the second. We were lucky the players executed more plays in the first half despite a lackluster, disjointed, no recognizable identity plan.

[MakeItRain]

I actually really liked running the slant there. Heath was wide open. We should have been running that on every first down until they stopped blitzing up the middle, too. Nothing is easy on the ground when the defense stacks the box and run blitzes. Instead we kept checking into 20 yard bombs down the sideline that Ertz had to chuck up off of his back foot.

Without context the slant there was fine. It was an odd time to call it given we were running the ball with pretty good success it was also bad because they didn't plan on going for it if the play failed. We did that on a running down but on passing downs when they were blitzing we were running these deep routes, it was stupid. Not only do the coaches not trust Ertz, they must not think our receivers are good enough route runners to get open on a three step drop.

[yoga-like_abana]

Not to mention that on those deep routes he usually overthrew the receiver by at least 10 yards

[POWL]

Not to mention that on those deep routes he usually overthrew the receiver by at least 10 yards

step into throw, shoulders won't fly open and it won't sail........simple crap like this is coaching 100%

['taterblast]

Also, this is a prime example of when Snyder's "we don't allow the coaches to talk" policy is really messed up. We send the junior in college who is our kicker out to the media, but not the OC(s) whose offense stunk up the 2nd half. That isn't right.

i don't know why i've never thought about it like this before now. it's absolutely bullshit.

[michigancat]

Lol at this whole article, but I especially liked this quote.  Yes, I know what he meant.

“As a whole, we had communication problems,” running back Charles Jones said. “Signaling plays late, audibling plays late, terrible clock management, not getting on the ball fast enough, which is what coach (Bill) Snyder preaches.

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-10-02/k-state-offense-plagued-communication-problems#

Somehow this is worse when you see it typed out than it was live:

The Wildcats had just converted a third-and-1 with a 1-yard sneak by quarterback Jesse Ertz to the WVU 28-yard line on the fourth play of the second quarter, then they were flagged for delay of game.

Ertz hit Isaiah Zuber for a 13-yard pass, but facing second-and-2 the Wildcats again had trouble getting started and Snyder sprinted — as fast as a 76-year-old man can sprint — down the sideline toward an official to call timeout.

Snyder threw down his headset, his second such action in three games after a disgusted headset toss in the Florida Atlantic game.

Coming out of the timeout, Ertz threw an incomplete pass and before he could get the snap on the third-and-2 play K-State had to call its second timeout in a span of 12 seconds on the game clock. It also was the third and final timeout of the half.

Ertz threw another incompletion on third down, but the Wildcats managed to come away with points on Matthew McCrane’s 37-yard field goal for a 10-0 lead.

[kso_FAN]

My frustration with Dimel has mainly come the last two seasons. His offenses have been fine for the most part during Snyder 2 when you look at the efficiency numbers. Its just strange that we finally build a good defense (credit to Hayes, who most wanted fired the last couple of years) and now our offense is terrible.

Also, this is a prime example of when Snyder's "we don't allow the coaches to talk" policy is really messed up. We send the junior in college who is our kicker out to the media, but not the OC(s) whose offense stunk up the 2nd half. That isn't right.

This is all good stuff but our offense was just as terrible in the first half, as far as game plan goes, as it was in the second. We were lucky the players executed more plays in the first half despite a lackluster, disjointed, no recognizable identity plan.

That's fair. I only got to listen to the first half, but it "felt" more like we were sustaining drives and moving the ball, plus the yardage totals were pretty much equal at halftime.