Presidential debate final stage (now moderated by an adult!)

[Skipper44]

That is Sasha's job

[Trim]

Honestly, Michelle will win anytime she decides to run

Yep.  It's crazy that the democrats aren't exhausting every option to try to get her plugged in this year.

[Rage Against the McKee]

TRUMP: I do want to say that I was just endorsed — and more are coming next week — it will be over 200 admirals, many of them here — admirals and generals endorsed me to lead this country. That just happened, and many more are coming. And I’m very proud of it.

In addition, I was just endorsed by ICE. They’ve never endorsed anybody before on immigration. I was just endorsed by ICE. I was just recently endorsed — 16,500 Border Patrol agents.

So when Secretary Clinton talks about this, I mean, I’ll take the admirals and I’ll take the generals any day over the political hacks that I see that have led our country so brilliantly over the last 10 years with their knowledge. OK? Because look at the mess that we’re in. Look at the mess that we’re in.

As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?

TRUMP: You don’t know who broke in to DNC.

But what did we learn with DNC? We learned that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people, by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Look what happened to her. But Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of. That’s what we learned.

Now, whether that was Russia, whether that was China, whether it was another country, we don’t know, because the truth is, under President Obama we’ve lost control of things that we used to have control over.

We came in with the Internet, we came up with the Internet, and I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS.

So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is — it is a huge problem. I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly doable.

But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester, and certainly cyber is one of them.

There is nothing better than Donald talking about cyber.

debate transcript

[star seed 7]

everyone was against Palin because she's a woman 

And Fiorina and Bachman.

I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.

I think the perception that she is robotic is mainly due to her being a woman - either because people have a double standard on how men/women should act and/or because of the things she has had to do to overcome the fact that she is a woman in a typical male dominated field.

I mean, people killed Rubio for being overly scripted too.  And Cruz for being insanely unlikeable.

I stand by my original point that her being a woman is probably not a significant factor among her detractors.

I agree

[MakeItRain]

She's also a product of the times.  Congress has the lowest favorability rating of all time and it's still dropping.  People's view of politics and politicians in general has never been lower.

This is the best point made in the thread.

[chum1]

So, maybe it is not the case that anyone other than Trump would beat her. ???

[catastrophe]

An established congressman or cabinet member would have a tougher time, no doubt. I don't think quite the same stigma would apply to Governors or perceived "Washington outsiders" which made up most of the Republican pool this year.

[CNS]

Someone equally established with less recent scandal would be skating through quicker than Emo's poisoned water through Emo.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The more the establishment people get voted out, the less congress functions and the lower their approval rating gets.

[star seed 7]

The more the establishment people get voted out, the less congress functions and the lower their approval rating gets.

Essentially voting for "change" and "shake ups" is voting for status quo

[Rage Against the McKee]

Replacing the incumbent is fine as long as you aren't trading him out for a dickweed like Ted Cruz.

[CNS]

We need to find moderate Dick weeds, is all.

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[treysolid]

exactly. look at what happened to congress as soon as all these tea party assholes got voted in.

[MakeItRain]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

Who the eff are you kidding? She could be the mutant second coming of Abe Lincoln, Henry Kissinger, and Thomas Jefferson and you'd still call her every name in the book because of that D next to her name.

[SkinnyBenny]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.

[stunted]

so alicia "piggy" machado did a "daniel sams" in the past

[420seriouscat69]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.

So then the question remains? Why is it that libs are so mad that people dislike Hillary?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

Who the eff are you kidding? She could be the mutant second coming of Abe Lincoln, Henry Kissinger, and Thomas Jefferson and you'd still call her every name in the book because of that D next to her name.

You deny these things are true? Or just mad?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.

And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.

Donald Trump does not give a eff about being president, has spent hundreds of millions of dollars less on his campaign, is an absurdly ridiculous candidate, and is polling dead even with her, with a real chance of winning weeks from the election.

It's a stunning indictment of how terrible Hillary is. The RNC blew it by not exercising a modicum of control over its primaries. Running 16 identical candidates out their, while Trump won delegates with 30% of the vote.

John McCain would mop the floor with Hilltard. Ted Cruz would mop the floor with Hilltard. Rick rough ridin' Santorum would mop the floor with Hilltard.  It's obvious.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Bernie Sanders would be at least 10 points ahead of Trump right now. We have the worst candidate from each party going head to head. 

[chum1]

There's another important factor that will make it hard for Trump to turn things around: The second debate will use the "town hall" format. Questions will be asked by ordinary citizens in the audience. These debates are different from others in a number of ways, none of which work to Trump's advantage.

First, we've seen in prior town hall debates that the questions tend to be more substantive, but less predictable.
...
Second, the presence of those citizens means that viewers will be watching to see how the candidates relate to them

http://theweek.com/articles/651768/why-donald-trump-even-worse-second-debate

Yeah, I think this format will be much harder for him. His best move is attacking Clinton. No way he figures out how to do that while addressing a concerned citizen.

So, there will definitely be a question from a Muslim, right?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Trump is going to do whatever the ruck he wqnts regardless of format. I don't think substantive unpredictable questions can possibly favor hillary.

[CNS]

There should be a requirement that the debates have to take place once the two candidates are both above a certain blood alcohol level. 

[star seed 7]

i would enjoy that CNS