Author Topic: Oklahoma State - Central Michigan (Read 10594 times)

cfbandyman · « **Reply #75 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:52:09 PM »

Meh, the rule is stupid based on change of possession but by the rules CMU's win shouldn't have happened. It doesn't matter what you think should happen, rules should be applied properly based on how they are written. OSU won the game, the play call was/is one of the best calls in terms of risk/reward you can call in that situation, it was just poorly executed. That being said, OSU's defense shouldn't have allowed that type of play to even happen to win the game.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #76 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:52:35 PM »

Your 2014 popeyes bahamas bowl runner up "good" cmu team

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400547857

cfbandyman · « **Reply #77 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:52:52 PM »

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 12, 2016, 12:46:40 PM

1. The rule is dumb. If you throw it with time on the clock on 4th down, the other team should get the ball back for 1 untimed down.
2. They got the call wrong, and the NCAA should overturn it and give OSU the W. This is the only game I would advocate changing the L to a W.
3. We shouldn't even be talking about this because it was a 51 yard hail mary. If you can't defend it, you don't deserve to win.

Well said.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #78 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:53:25 PM »

CMU's QB is a stud.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #79 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:54:26 PM »

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 12, 2016, 12:46:40 PM

1. The rule is dumb. If you throw it with time on the clock on 4th down, the other team should get the ball back for 1 untimed down.
2. They got the call wrong, and the NCAA should overturn it and give OSU the W. This is the only game I would advocate changing the L to a W.
3. We shouldn't even be talking about this because it was a 51 yard hail mary. If you can't defend it, you don't deserve to win.

An addition to 3: the CMU QB could barely throw it 40 yards. To lose on an inverted hook and lateral in that situation makes it even worse. The only worse defense in that situation that I can think of immediately is our debacle in Boulder.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #80 on:** September 12, 2016, 12:57:03 PM »

I think the refs knew the rule, knew how patently unjust it was, refused to enforce it, and put it to osu to beat a miserably below average mac team at home.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #81 on:** September 12, 2016, 01:30:57 PM »

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on September 12, 2016, 12:54:26 PM

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 12, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
The only worse defense in that situation that I can think of immediately is our debacle in Boulder.
Remind me of it. Stunted and I were talking about if the cats had had any ridiculous thing like that happen to or against us and I couldn't of the top of my head

MadCat · « **Reply #82 on:** September 12, 2016, 02:32:24 PM »

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on September 12, 2016, 10:40:10 AM

https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/775357237808148482

Looks like Bill has lost his TSC.

CHONGS · « **Reply #83 on:** September 12, 2016, 02:34:03 PM »

1K mistakes in a game seems like a lot. That would be multiple mistakes a play.

Trim · « **Reply #84 on:** September 12, 2016, 02:37:28 PM »

Quote from: Chingon on September 12, 2016, 02:34:03 PM

1K mistakes in a game seems like a lot. That would be multiple mistakes a play.

Are you doubting the Legend?

CHONGS · « **Reply #85 on:** September 12, 2016, 02:50:22 PM »

Quote from: Trim on September 12, 2016, 02:37:28 PM

Quote from: Chingon on September 12, 2016, 02:34:03 PM
1K mistakes in a game seems like a lot. That would be multiple mistakes a play.

Are you doubting the Legend?

I've made trillions of mistakes in my life, but doubting the Legend isn't one of them.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #86 on:** September 12, 2016, 03:41:17 PM »

I think maybe Bill is counting mistakes that affect the game that he made before. Preparation, staffing, recruiting, not raising his son to be a better heir to his kingdom, stuff like all of that.

Steffy08 · « **Reply #87 on:** September 12, 2016, 03:57:42 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 12, 2016, 12:57:03 PM

I think the refs knew the rule, knew how patently unjust it was, refused to enforce it, and put it to osu to beat a miserably below average mac team at home.

Maybe the refs were confused by the "team in possession" language. I mean, after the play, CMU was in possession. It seems like you could get to the right result (one untimed down for CMU), while still complying with the letter of the rule, by simply concluding that OSU was no longer in possession at the end of the play.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #88 on:** September 12, 2016, 04:03:58 PM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on September 12, 2016, 01:30:57 PM

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on September 12, 2016, 12:54:26 PM
The only worse defense in that situation that I can think of immediately is our debacle in Boulder.
Remind me of it. Stunted and I were talking about if the cats had had any ridiculous thing like that happen to or against us and I couldn't of the top of my head

http://cjonline.com/stories/111404/cat_wildcatslose.shtml#.V9cX_JqDmJI

mocat · « **Reply #89 on:** September 12, 2016, 04:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 12, 2016, 12:57:03 PM

I think the refs knew the rule, knew how patently unjust it was, refused to enforce it, and put it to osu to beat a miserably below average mac team at home.

this is how i feel as well

CHONGS · « **Reply #90 on:** September 12, 2016, 04:09:58 PM »

activist refs!

That_Guy · « **Reply #91 on:** September 12, 2016, 11:36:56 PM »

How about you don't play C. Michigan that close and let that last play happen. Jfc... The chances of that happening and you let it happen. It means Okie State sucks.

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catastrophe · « **Reply #92 on:** September 17, 2016, 04:41:52 PM »

During the KSU game they were talking about how many wins get vacated by the NCAA for stupid reasons. That brings up an interesting point. Why can't OSU have it's loss vacated? You don't have to give Central Michigan a loss, just give OSU a win (or even just erase the loss).

MakeItRain · « **Reply #93 on:** September 17, 2016, 04:45:53 PM »

Quote from: That_Guy on September 12, 2016, 11:36:56 PM

How about you don't play C. Michigan that close and let that last play happen. Jfc... The chances of that happening and you let it happen. It means Okie State sucks.

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What a ridiculous take

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #94 on:** September 17, 2016, 08:34:26 PM »

Oklahoma State and TTech are gonna be in a dog fight for 7th place and historically shitty defense.

ednksu · « **Reply #95 on:** September 19, 2016, 09:25:06 AM »

Quote from: catastrophe on September 17, 2016, 04:41:52 PM

During the KSU game they were talking about how many wins get vacated by the NCAA for stupid reasons. That brings up an interesting point. Why can't OSU have it's loss vacated? You don't have to give Central Michigan a loss, just give OSU a win (or even just erase the loss).

This is the correct answer and what I thought of when it first happened. It's not fair to take a W away from Mich because they played, and won, the game as called on the field. OSU being dicked in this manner should be repairable because of the outright incompetence of the staff.

DQ12 · « **Reply #96 on:** November 21, 2016, 10:38:29 AM »

OSU would be a bedlam win away from the playoff had the rule been properly applied.

Bookcat · « **Reply #97 on:** November 21, 2016, 10:41:31 AM »

What scenario hurts both of the football teams in Oklahoma the most. I want that one.

Yard Dog · « **Reply #98 on:** November 21, 2016, 11:02:09 AM »

Quote from: Bookcat on November 21, 2016, 10:41:31 AM

What scenario hurts both of the football teams in Oklahoma the most. I want that one.

Something like:

To make sure no one complains this much again the NCAA has decided to give OSU an extra loss. They are hoping this will "shut them up." CFP committee told to treat this extra loss as if it was to historically bad KU. If old Mullet Gundy wants to complain they'll slap on another loss and kneecap Rudolph.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #99 on:** November 21, 2016, 01:45:38 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on November 21, 2016, 10:38:29 AM

OSU would be a bedlam win away from the playoff had the rule been properly applied.

I don't think so, they'd still be behind Washington.