Who you got?

[Cartierfor3]

I'm truly the last line of defense guys

yeah that Nebraska swing state is a real doozy

[Rage Against the McKee]

I've been trying to convince a guy I work with to vote for Gary Johnson so that he doesn't vote for Trump. It isn't working so far.

Most of the Trump voters I know are upset he's the candidate because they don't think he will win. They like his policies just fine though and have no problem voting for him.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I disagree with Obama on this

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-vote-vote-trump/story?id=42416587

You should, it's an intellectually empty statement made by a partisan crap head.

[Asteriskhead]

everyone needs to eff off with their "get in line or the sky is going to fall" bullshit.

[Kat Kid]

And his bit where he equates "voting for third party candidates with no chance to win" to "not voting" is pretty anti-democratic.

I agree on one level, but he was talking to a specific audience, not the American people.

What "specific audience" are you talking about? That statement from Obama pretty much epitomizes what I think is his biggest failing, that politics is really just an "us" versus "them" exercise and the people's job is solely to elect more good guys so they can beat down the bad guys.

There are a lot of things people think are zero sum that aren't zero sum, but elections are definitely zero sum.

[catastrophe]

If we're ignoring the anti-Democratic notion and making this a purely logical exercise, then a vote for a third party or no vote is a vote against Hillary, not a vote for Trump.

Obama is way too smart of a person to say stuff that stupid.

[chum1]

I've been trying to convince a guy I work with to vote for Gary Johnson so that he doesn't vote for Trump. It isn't working so far.

No vote or a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump UNLESS that vote is otherwise definitely going to Trump with zero chance of going to Clinton.

[MakeItRain]

I disagree with Obama on this

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-vote-vote-trump/story?id=42416587

You should, it's an intellectually empty statement made by a partisan crap head.

 

everyone needs to eff off with their "get in line or the sky is going to fall" bullshit.

 

[catastrophe]

I've been trying to convince a guy I work with to vote for Gary Johnson so that he doesn't vote for Trump. It isn't working so far.

No vote or a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump UNLESS that vote is otherwise definitely going to Trump with zero chance of going to Clinton.

Interesting. No vote or a vote for a third party is the same as voting for Trump unless you would have voted for Trump otherwise, in which case it is a vote for Clinton.

So I guess if you are going to vote for a third party you may as well just vote Trump. BUT, if instead of just voting Trump because it's the same as voting for a third party, you decide you will vote for the third party, then BOOM: one less vote for Trump which means you just voted Hillary.

Thanks Obama.

[sys]

mathematically, a non vote by anyone who dislikes trump or a  vote for a third party instead of clinton is .5 of a vote for trump, so i rate obama's statement as *mostly true*.

[DQ12]

Just Trim 3:16 it.  Vote for whoever you want, and if you don't want to vote for anyone, don't.  But this "you better vote and that vote better be for my person because if not then you'll be to blame when the bad candidate wins" rhetoric is silly.

If you want my vote, give me someone I want to vote for.

[catastrophe]

This guy gets it.

[Cartierfor3]

Just Trim 3:16 it.  Vote for whoever you want, and if you don't want to vote for anyone, don't.  But this "you better vote and that vote better be for my person because if not then you'll be to blame when the bad candidate wins" rhetoric is silly.

If you want my vote, give me someone I want to vote for.

 

[Mrs. Gooch]

I've been trying to convince a guy I work with to vote for Gary Johnson so that he doesn't vote for Trump. It isn't working so far.

No vote or a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump UNLESS that vote is otherwise definitely going to Trump with zero chance of going to Clinton.

Interesting. No vote or a vote for a third party is the same as voting for Trump unless you would have voted for Trump otherwise, in which case it is a vote for Clinton.

So I guess if you are going to vote for a third party you may as well just vote Trump. BUT, if instead of just voting Trump because it's the same as voting for a third party, you decide you will vote for the third party, then BOOM: one less vote for Trump which means you just voted Hillary.

Thanks Obama.

Well the guy is definetly voting for Trump unless I can convince him to vote for GJ (aka 42.579% of a vote for Clinton). He lives in KS so will it really matter either way?

[sys]

see if you can find a libertarian-leaning trumper in new hampshire or florida that you can flip.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Do this country a favor and vote for Hillary, it's not that complicated.

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[sys]

Do this country a favor and vote for Hillary, it's not that complicated.

it really is that simple.

[michigancat]

Just Trim 3:16 it.  Vote for whoever you want, and if you don't want to vote for anyone, don't.  But this "you better vote and that vote better be for my person because if not then you'll be to blame when the bad candidate wins" rhetoric is silly.

If you want my vote, give me someone I want to vote for.

the nerve of politicians trying to influence the outcomes of elections! Silly!

[Asteriskhead]

Do this country a favor and vote for Hillary, it's not that complicated.

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eff yourself.

[catastrophe]

I've been trying to convince a guy I work with to vote for Gary Johnson so that he doesn't vote for Trump. It isn't working so far.

No vote or a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump UNLESS that vote is otherwise definitely going to Trump with zero chance of going to Clinton.

Interesting. No vote or a vote for a third party is the same as voting for Trump unless you would have voted for Trump otherwise, in which case it is a vote for Clinton.

So I guess if you are going to vote for a third party you may as well just vote Trump. BUT, if instead of just voting Trump because it's the same as voting for a third party, you decide you will vote for the third party, then BOOM: one less vote for Trump which means you just voted Hillary.

Thanks Obama.

Well the guy is definetly voting for Trump unless I can convince him to vote for GJ (aka 42.579% of a vote for Clinton). He lives in KS so will it really matter either way?

Tell him to go to balancedrebellion(.com?). It matches up Trump supporters with Hillary supporters in your state and you cancel out each other's vote by both voting Gary.

At least he could be comforted by feeling responsible by taking a vote away from Hillary?

[MakeItRain]

Do this country a favor and vote for Hillary, it's not that complicated.

it really is that simple.

She should do the country a favor and quit

[420seriouscat69]

Not that it matters, because do what you want, but I'd love to hear why ell is so obsessed with Hillary. I think he wants to bang her.