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« Reply #300 on: June 05, 2019, 09:35:30 AM »
LOL, MCaleenan just testified in front of Congress that nearly 100% of asylum (and many non asylum seeking) border crossers are released.  In many jurisdictions court cases are 2 years out or longer another ICE official testified that as of now about 90% are not showing up for court dates.


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« Reply #301 on: June 05, 2019, 09:50:48 AM »
If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.

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« Reply #302 on: June 05, 2019, 10:00:54 AM »
If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.

You reference a report that uses statistics that are 5 FFY's old.   :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #303 on: June 05, 2019, 10:05:45 AM »
It was published in 2017. I guess it's possible that Trump's administration is just too incompetent to get more than 10% of these people to show up for court, though.

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« Reply #304 on: June 05, 2019, 10:07:08 AM »
So you’re saying we went from 25% not reporting to 90% during Trump’s presidency?

Sounds like if there’s an emergency it’s that we have a completely inept enforcer of our border laws.

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« Reply #305 on: June 05, 2019, 10:09:34 AM »
So you’re saying we went from 25% not reporting to 90% during Trump’s presidency?

Sounds like if there’s an emergency it’s that we have a completely inept enforcer of our border laws.

There's over 100K a month trying to cross the border.

In addition, the super old statistics posted are likely for court dates that came months, maybe even years after they crossed.

Clearly what you're not getting is that, these are people that are already in the country, "border laws" don't mean anything at that point.

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« Reply #306 on: June 05, 2019, 10:10:20 AM »
Apparently they used to mean something.

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« Reply #307 on: June 05, 2019, 10:11:52 AM »
Apparently they used to mean something.

 :lol:  You're using "border laws" and applying it to people who already crossed the border and are living in the country.    :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #308 on: June 05, 2019, 10:14:37 AM »
Dax, “border laws” aren’t like an actual thing. You’re falling back in the “COLUSION is not a crime” talking point to avoid addressing the actual point.

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« Reply #309 on: June 05, 2019, 10:16:03 AM »
It was published in 2017. I guess it's possible that Trump's administration is just too incompetent to get more than 10% of these people to show up for court, though.

 :lol:  Look at the trendline of border crossers since 2017 when LibDerp Nation leaders officially declared that they want open borders and completely reversed all that big mean tough talk on the border they did the previous 8 years, and when LibDerp State leaders officially went sanctuary city/state because OrangeMan:Bad





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« Reply #310 on: June 05, 2019, 10:18:03 AM »
Apparently they used to mean something.

 :lol:  You're using "border laws" and applying it to people who already crossed the border and are living in the country.    :lol: :lol:

I'm applying it to people who are here lawfully and awaiting a court date to determine whether or not they get to stay.

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« Reply #311 on: June 05, 2019, 10:18:40 AM »
Dax, “border laws” aren’t like an actual thing. You’re falling back in the “COLUSION is not a crime” talking point to avoid addressing the actual point.

You're falling into your usual idiocy of failing to understand the big picture, like you always do.

Five Federal Fiscal Years ago 25% of border crossers failed to show up in court of which many had already been living in the country for months/years.

So in essence that could be statistics for people who crossed the border a decade ago or more.

This is not hard, except for you.



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« Reply #312 on: June 05, 2019, 10:19:57 AM »
If the courts are that slow, then the ICE guy must have been lying his ass off with his 90% figure, since 0% of these immigrants would have even had a court date to miss.

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« Reply #313 on: June 05, 2019, 10:23:50 AM »
If the courts are that slow, then the ICE guy must have been lying his ass off with his 90% figure, since 0% of these immigrants would have even had a court date to miss.

A pilot study run in conjunction with the DOJ.

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« Reply #314 on: June 05, 2019, 10:25:31 AM »
Dax, this may surprise you, but if they’re released into the US and required to appear for a court date in the US, then they’re in the country legally.

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« Reply #315 on: June 05, 2019, 10:34:07 AM »
Dax, this may surprise you, but if they’re released into the US and required to appear for a court date in the US, then they’re in the country legally.

I said nothing to the contrary.  You're just flailing.

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« Reply #316 on: June 05, 2019, 10:52:15 AM »
Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.

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« Reply #317 on: June 05, 2019, 11:04:21 AM »
Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.

You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.

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« Reply #318 on: June 05, 2019, 11:06:09 AM »
Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.

You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.

HOF worthy dax-out here  :lol:
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #319 on: June 05, 2019, 11:07:56 AM »
Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.

You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.

HOF worthy dax-out here  :lol:

The usual cognitive dissonance from resident LibDerp Nation here.

You're here legally, but you still have to go to immigration court to determine your status . . . LibDerp Logic  :lol:

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« Reply #320 on: June 05, 2019, 11:32:55 AM »
It’s basically like calling someone a criminal because they were arrested and posted bond. Sure it’s a common mistake but still a mistake and definitely not just a technicality.

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« Reply #321 on: June 05, 2019, 11:46:16 AM »
It’s basically like calling someone a criminal because they were arrested and posted bond. Sure it’s a common mistake but still a mistake and definitely not just a technicality.

 :lol:

The various statuses simply grant a stay in deportation until further proceedings take place to determine final status.   The fact that you're now using constitutionally granted rights of American Citizens and applying them to non-citizens, is, well, telling.

 



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« Reply #322 on: June 05, 2019, 11:49:40 AM »
Okay, while resident LibDerps flail around trying to grant constitutional oversight status to non-citizens.

Let's get back to the Euro's.

It's really great to see the resident Whack-A-Doo's beloved EU ready to go in and slap already cash strapped Italy with a $3 billion dollar fine . . . of an already cashed strapped nation.

So much so that Italy is looking to float its own Euro tied currency.

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« Reply #323 on: June 05, 2019, 11:50:02 AM »

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Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #324 on: June 05, 2019, 11:55:42 AM »
 :lol: at those that don't think Ireland has a border situation.

I mean, just straight up  :lol:
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