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The Management of Savagery
« on: June 12, 2016, 01:04:46 PM »
(I'm pulling from a couple books and articles here. This is meant to be informational.)

The Management of Savagery is a 113-page essay written in 2004 by an Al-Qaeda associated Iraqi named Abu Bakr Naji. "...it posits a world in which the superpower halo of the United States has disappeared and the Muslim world within the colonial boundaries known as the 1916 Sykes-Picot agreement has descended into chaos — “savagery,” as the author bluntly puts it."

TMoS is a manual intending to teach jihadists lessons from past failures and give a common vision for the future creation of an islamic state. It outlines stages of the jihadist struggle around a few main ideas:

Disruption and exhaustion: In which terrorist attacks damage the economy of enemy powers and demoralize their populations.
Management of Savagery: A phase of violent resistance with an emphasis on carrying out acts of highly visible violence intended to send a message to both allies and enemies.
Empowerment: The establishment of regions controlled by jihadists which can subsequently grow and unite toward the goal of recreating the caliphate.

Al-Qaeda's intellectuals believe that ISIS began the Empowerment stage much too soon and this is a main source of the rival faction's disagreement. They(this includes Bin Laden himself) have stated that the Disruption and Exhaustion stage will take decades.


I could go on and on but you can read the thing for yourself online.


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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 01:11:37 PM »
There is so much evidence that terrorism is able to achieve its goals. What the eff are we going to do about it?

My biggest concerns are the curbing of individual liberties in an attempt to make everyone safe and that we will fly off the handle at some point and commit the next great genocide.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 01:20:49 PM »
Have scientists focus efforts on disproving all religion.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 01:27:25 PM »
Have scientists focus efforts on disproving all religion.
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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 01:28:21 PM »
I wonder what the terrorist's take of the mass migration into Europe is. Biggest thing is to show Western culture/lifestyle is compatible with Islam and is the better alternative to years/endless bloodshed and instability and that any caliphate is as dumb as unicorn rainbows and would never function correctly(which is probably why Bin Laden is like slow your role ISIS).

They despise muslim "softness" as much as they do the Shia and the unbelievers and the Jews.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 01:30:44 PM »
Have scientists focus efforts on disproving all religion.
I feel like it's a race with Renewable Energy/The Internet's Atheism vs. Terrorists Acquire A Nuke

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 01:38:55 PM »
I really don't get how religion (any of them) is still a thing in 2016.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 01:43:51 PM »
I really don't get how religion (any of them) is still a thing in 2016.
Arabs have never been any good at sports so they play religion instead.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 01:59:26 PM »
I really don't get how religion (any of them) is still a thing in 2016.
Arabs have never been any good at sports so they play religion instead.

Any religion, even the kind that Tyler Lockett thinks makes him score touchdowns.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2016, 02:16:21 PM »
There has been 5200 murders in the Us this year.   I don't think these were in the name of a god; maybe crack.  My God does not advocate killing.  Without Jesus, I would be a meanace.  Religion keeps the lid on savagery.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2016, 03:07:29 PM »
There has been 5200 murders in the Us this year.   I don't think these were in the name of a god; maybe crack.  My God does not advocate killing.  Without Jesus, I would be a meanace.  Religion keeps the lid on savagery.

The world can handle the godless renocat problem.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2016, 03:12:23 PM »
i think he's just using religion as an excuse.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2016, 03:33:33 PM »
Np God.  No religion.  What then is the moral compass of the mananimal?  Our human nature? Sounds like the religion of Humanism.   The murdering in Chicago is a snippet of the world without religion.  I suppose a police state could keep control and you would be okay if you worshipped the supreme leader or group.  Are nonreligioners wanting N Korea and Kim Wunhung Lo?

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2016, 03:35:27 PM »
Np God.  No religion.  What then is the moral compass of the mananimal?  Our human nature? Sounds like the religion of Humanism.   The murdering in Chicago is a snippet of the world without religion.  I suppose a police state could keep control and you would be okay if you worshipped the supreme leader or group.  Are nonreligioners wanting N Korea and Kim Wunhung Lo?

Guns or religion, which one can we 86?

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 05:18:43 PM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 05:42:04 PM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?

My knee jerk response would be the loss of the moral compass.  It has allowed for relativism, and some would claim rising sociopathy

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 05:47:24 PM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?

lack of atheism is the only thing keeping reno from killing us all.  by inductive reasoning, those who indulge in unrestrained killing are atheists.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2016, 06:28:53 PM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?

My knee jerk response would be the loss of the moral compass.  It has allowed for relativism, and some would claim rising sociopathy

Interesting post considering the OP.

OP?  Sorry.  I am a bit slow today.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2016, 09:56:12 AM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?
Catholic gangs are the worst.


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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2016, 09:57:55 AM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?
Catholic gangs are the worst.


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all

Yeah, they molest innocent children instead of mostly killing other gang dudes
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2016, 09:58:40 AM »
How are gang shootouts tied to atheism?
Catholic gangs are the worst.


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all

Radical catholics. :nono: Don't lump them all together.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2016, 07:04:50 PM »
hey, i found my favorite thread of all-time. sys and trim doing work. not the lord's work, but werq. in which case, they may be gay and hopefully reno never  kills them.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2016, 07:39:34 PM »
hey, i found my favorite thread of all-time. sys and trim doing work. not the lord's work, but werq. in which case, they may be gay and hopefully reno never  kills them.

This very vaguely reminds me, want to see prophets of rage on 9/10 if you'll be back by then?

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2016, 08:27:13 PM »
You have to be one terrible person, maybe even sociopath, if the only thing keeping you from killing is a belief that you'll be punished in the afterlife.

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Re: The Management of Savagery
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2016, 02:09:26 AM »
hey, i found my favorite thread of all-time. sys and trim doing work. not the lord's work, but werq. in which case, they may be gay and hopefully reno never  kills them.

This very vaguely reminds me, want to see prophets of rage on 9/10 if you'll be back by then?

I don't know who that is, but I will def be back by then. Bristol Bay season is relatively short compared to other fisheries in AK.