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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #1150 on: February 22, 2021, 07:55:37 AM »
Massey, Reid, Hatcher, Williams among the wooly/Asbury juco recruits who would be the best player on this squad.

Justin Williams?  :ROFL: lol, knock that crap off. You've gone mad.
I was wondering if that's who he was referring to. WOOF!

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« Reply #1151 on: February 22, 2021, 09:19:49 AM »
Wanna hear something funny, TCU fans aren't even talking about the loss because of their baseball loss to Mississippi State which is hilarious to me.
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« Reply #1152 on: February 22, 2021, 10:18:35 AM »
Also no one actually wants Mike to return right?
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« Reply #1153 on: February 22, 2021, 11:26:53 AM »
Also no one actually wants Mike to return right?

IDK, a competent coach could make a useful player out of him.

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« Reply #1154 on: February 22, 2021, 11:30:26 AM »
My bad, was thinking Tyrone Davis not Williams. And yes Davis, who once commented on this board, would be the best player on this team. Had my head up my coaching search ass.

But the point remains valid: Weber sucks at recruiting in general, and at juco and transfer recruiting in particular.
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« Reply #1155 on: February 22, 2021, 11:34:53 AM »
Also no one actually wants Mike to return right?

IDK, a competent coach could make a useful player out of him.

Not with this roster. He's a rotational player being asked to carry the load. We could have went 2-13 with Nijel, Selton, Rudi, DaJuan, and Luke sharing his minutes. We gain absolutely nothing having him back.

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« Reply #1156 on: February 22, 2021, 12:00:18 PM »
Also no one actually wants Mike to return right?

IDK, a competent coach could make a useful player out of him.

Not with this roster. He's a rotational player being asked to carry the load. We could have went 2-13 with Nijel, Selton, Rudi, DaJuan, and Luke sharing his minutes. We gain absolutely nothing having him back.
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With a competent coach, he could help as a role player on a team that will be offensively challenged. Kasubke shows promise as a shooter but other than Pack the other are simply awful behind the arc and are as sloppy with the ball as McGurl (coaching).

Now if you're telling me we're going to bring in a fifth-year senior at the 2 or 3 with shooting skills, then my all means move on McGurl. But we all know that only happens with Oscar's departure.

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« Reply #1157 on: February 22, 2021, 12:24:45 PM »
Bye, McGuirl. We'll always have the time you took out McNeck.

Whoa, what if that weird rumor is true and we got McNeck. He might member that game and what Mike to stay.

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« Reply #1158 on: February 22, 2021, 12:28:29 PM »
Also no one actually wants Mike to return right?

IDK, a competent coach could make a useful player out of him.

Not with this roster. He's a rotational player being asked to carry the load. We could have went 2-13 with Nijel, Selton, Rudi, DaJuan, and Luke sharing his minutes. We gain absolutely nothing having him back.

Agree completely.  Should be a role player at the 2 but even if we bring in a strong PG transfer, he's just taking minutes from a deep position in a season with limited upside.

Another year isn't going to affect his pro stock either, so I don't know why he would return unless he wants some grad school paid for (smart!).

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« Reply #1159 on: February 22, 2021, 09:17:18 PM »
If oscar stays, Mike is staying, oscar said on Saturday he wants him to stay.

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« Reply #1160 on: February 22, 2021, 09:27:41 PM »
If oscar stays, Mike is staying, oscar said on Saturday he wants him to stay.
Not to be a debbie but mike needs to leave. So i guess oscar has to go to


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« Reply #1161 on: February 22, 2021, 09:28:35 PM »
If oscar stays, Mike is staying, oscar said on Saturday he wants him to stay.

Pretty wild stuff but I love the crap out of Nijel Pack and Davion Bradford so I will continue to watch.
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« Reply #1162 on: February 22, 2021, 09:31:23 PM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

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« Reply #1163 on: February 22, 2021, 09:35:15 PM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

I suppose it depends on if you think an upgrade exists in the transfer market
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« Reply #1164 on: February 23, 2021, 12:22:19 AM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

What does he provide that the other guards couldn't with more minutes spread between them? The stats say that the only guard he's better than is Selton Miguel and they are pretty comparable, one is a freshman, the other is a senior.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/2021.html#all_advanced

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« Reply #1165 on: February 23, 2021, 01:41:24 AM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

I suppose it depends on if you think an upgrade exists in the transfer market
I'm willing to bet that there is a guard better than mike in the transfer portal.
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« Reply #1166 on: February 23, 2021, 01:44:26 AM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

What does he provide that the other guards couldn't with more minutes spread between them? The stats say that the only guard he's better than is Selton Miguel and they are pretty comparable, one is a freshman, the other is a senior.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/2021.html#all_advanced
Selton will be so damned good next year.

Also if you think Dajuan is worse than Mike then your opinion is invalid.
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« Reply #1167 on: February 23, 2021, 06:08:12 AM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

I suppose it depends on if you think an upgrade exists in the transfer market
I'm willing to bet that there is a guard better than mike in the transfer portal.


I agree, but oscar is bringing back Mike.
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« Reply #1168 on: February 23, 2021, 07:10:42 AM »
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

I suppose it depends on if you think an upgrade exists in the transfer market

In that case, I'd be damn sure I had a STELLAR replacement lined up before I decided that he didn't need to return.

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« Reply #1169 on: February 23, 2021, 07:22:31 AM »
Quote from: wetwillie link=topic=37317.msg2052613#msg2052613 date=1614051315b
It's totally obvious to me that both this year's and next year's teams are significantly worse without McGuirl. I don't even see how it is debatable.

I suppose it depends on if you think an upgrade exists in the transfer market

In that case, I'd be damn sure I had a STELLAR replacement lined up before I decided that he didn't need to return.

It’s a moot point because oscar is bringing back Mike regardless. 
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« Reply #1170 on: February 23, 2021, 09:25:00 AM »
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/2021.html#advanced::27

I don't see a whole lot there that we couldn't replace with underclassmen that still have a chance to improve.

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« Reply #1171 on: February 23, 2021, 07:28:27 PM »
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« Reply #1172 on: February 23, 2021, 07:39:54 PM »
If Mike drops 35 tonight he is allowed to stay another year. No repercussions from this fan.


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« Reply #1173 on: February 23, 2021, 09:34:32 PM »
What is the point of having a white guard on the team if he can’t hit threes??

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« Reply #1174 on: February 23, 2021, 09:35:38 PM »
What is the point of having a white guard on the team if he can’t hit threes??
FeelsBadMan, he needs to put up at least 100 shots from that exact spot before he goes home.


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