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« Reply #1125 on: February 21, 2021, 08:08:35 AM »
If they keep these Freshman intact, they’ll be fine.

I love these guys, but you do know we aren't the only team with freshmen, right? These teams aren't loaded with seniors, we will be picked 9th to start next season. Either the roster needs to be addressed, the staff needs to go, or both. This current roster isn't and staff aren't going to just pass all of these other teams up just because. The 2021 class doesn't appear to be the answer. It's also going to be nearly an impossibly to keep the group together.
According to every mbb broadcast I’ve had to sit through this year, we have the most Freshman starts/minutes in the country with the likes of Kentucky and North Carolina. Biggest difference between us and them is their guys will jump to the league. I’m just remaining optimistic because it’s the only play I have at this point. There’s zero chance they fire oscar this year.

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« Reply #1126 on: February 21, 2021, 08:14:25 AM »
I think the ceiling is the bubble for this group.   Unless they land a few instant impact transfers this group has no chance at the tournament next year.  Might sniff a bid in 2022-23 and 2023-24.
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« Reply #1127 on: February 21, 2021, 08:25:45 AM »
I think the ceiling is the bubble for this group.   Unless they land a few instant impact transfers this group has no chance at the tournament next year.  Might sniff a bid in 2022-23 and 2023-24.
They didn’t have an offseason together because of the pandemic. This take seems a bit emotional.

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« Reply #1128 on: February 21, 2021, 10:25:48 AM »
I think the ceiling is the bubble for this group.   Unless they land a few instant impact transfers this group has no chance at the tournament next year.  Might sniff a bid in 2022-23 and 2023-24.
They didn’t have an offseason together because of the pandemic. This take seems a bit emotional.

Yes, but we're 3 months into a 4 month season. We know where the deficiencies are. We don't have a point guard, either a starter or reserve. We don't have shooting, and we're the worst defensive team in the league. Again, either the roster will need to get better or the coaches will need to change, otherwise the goal for year two will have to be to get to .500 which as we sit is a tall task. Barry, Dean, and Kam had an NBA player on the roster with them. None of those guys were close to the best player on the roster until Wes left.

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« Reply #1129 on: February 21, 2021, 10:34:07 AM »
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« Reply #1130 on: February 21, 2021, 10:52:27 AM »
First, I think a change is unlikely, but we'll see. I don't think the biggest donor(s) are on board right now for whatever reason.

Second, I do like the young talent, but I do think we need another piece, specifically a combo guard that can really defend. Find a mid major transfer with experience that can bring some more dawg mentality.

Third, my biggest surprise with this year is that oscar didn't lose this team and if anything they've only come together stronger as the season progressed. In January I thought this team would fall apart.

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« Reply #1131 on: February 21, 2021, 10:58:24 AM »
First, I think a change is unlikely, but we'll see. I don't think the biggest donor(s) are on board right now for whatever reason.

Second, I do like the young talent, but I do think we need another piece, specifically a combo guard that can really defend. Find a mid major transfer with experience that can bring some more dawg mentality.

Third, my biggest surprise with this year is that oscar didn't lose this team and if anything they've only come together stronger as the season progressed. In January I thought this team would fall apart.

Would AJ Bramah move the needle for next year? 
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« Reply #1132 on: February 21, 2021, 11:13:38 AM »
First, I think a change is unlikely, but we'll see. I don't think the biggest donor(s) are on board right now for whatever reason.

Second, I do like the young talent, but I do think we need another piece, specifically a combo guard that can really defend. Find a mid major transfer with experience that can bring some more dawg mentality.

Third, my biggest surprise with this year is that oscar didn't lose this team and if anything they've only come together stronger as the season progressed. In January I thought this team would fall apart.

Would AJ Bramah move the needle for next year? 

I like him, but we have a logjam of 4s and 5s. IMO this team needs another tough guard. Doesn't have to be The Flush, I'd take a Larry Reid/Elliot Hatcher type.

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« Reply #1133 on: February 21, 2021, 12:12:17 PM »
If they keep these Freshman intact, they’ll be fine.

I love these guys, but you do know we aren't the only team with freshmen, right? These teams aren't loaded with seniors, we will be picked 9th to start next season. Either the roster needs to be addressed, the staff needs to go, or both. This current roster isn't and staff aren't going to just pass all of these other teams up just because. The 2021 class doesn't appear to be the answer. It's also going to be nearly an impossibly to keep the group together.
According to every mbb broadcast I’ve had to sit through this year, we have the most Freshman starts/minutes in the country with the likes of Kentucky and North Carolina. Biggest difference between us and them is their guys will jump to the league. I’m just remaining optimistic because it’s the only play I have at this point. There’s zero chance they fire oscar this year.


And why do we find o ourselves in that position? Could it be the fault of the guy on the bench who after nine years with the  program has proven he is a sadly inconsistent recruiter? And we see the same thing playing out again as one solid but by no means great recruiting year is followed by another sad effort that doesn't address needs. Yes there's still time to change that, but the top 2021 high school talent is signed and Oscar has proven inept at signing transfers to the point you have to wonder if he is ever aware of the fifth-year senior transfer rule. And as I've pointed out before, he is worse than Asbury or Wooly at finding juco talent. In his years at K-State, he has not brought in one juco player who made a significant contribution to the team.

I'm resigned that it won't happen, but it's time to pull the scab. Why go through this another season or two when we could start fresh with someone with a clue about how to build and sustain a program?

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« Reply #1134 on: February 21, 2021, 12:40:07 PM »
I can’t remember a single impactful JUCO basketball player ever. Anywhere. It’s like Mitch Richmond and scene!

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« Reply #1135 on: February 21, 2021, 01:08:13 PM »
I can’t remember a single impactful JUCO basketball player ever. Anywhere. It’s like Mitch Richmond and scene!
Maybe if you got your head out of Oscar's ass your memory would improve.

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« Reply #1136 on: February 21, 2021, 01:08:49 PM »
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« Reply #1137 on: February 21, 2021, 01:09:13 PM »
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« Reply #1138 on: February 21, 2021, 01:16:01 PM »
Anthony Beane was incredibly impactful for us in that he single-handedly won like 8 games in two years for us in the last 20 seconds, and some really meaningful, big upsets. @KU in ‘94, in Bramlage over the #1 or #2 Sooners, and a win over a similarly ranked Mizzou. Dude was absolute nails in the clutch. In fact Mitch called him "Mr. Clutch".
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« Reply #1139 on: February 21, 2021, 01:21:08 PM »
Massey, Reid, Hatcher, Williams among the wooly/Asbury juco recruits who would be the best player on this squad.

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« Reply #1140 on: February 21, 2021, 01:38:49 PM »
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« Reply #1141 on: February 21, 2021, 01:39:30 PM »
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« Reply #1142 on: February 21, 2021, 01:51:45 PM »
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« Reply #1143 on: February 21, 2021, 01:53:03 PM »
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« Reply #1144 on: February 21, 2021, 05:03:13 PM »
I can’t remember a single impactful JUCO basketball player ever. Anywhere. It’s like Mitch Richmond and scene!
Maybe if you got your head out of Oscar's ass your memory would improve.
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« Reply #1145 on: February 21, 2021, 05:04:44 PM »
JUCO players have like a 5% success rate at the next level. It’s weird.

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« Reply #1146 on: February 21, 2021, 08:06:45 PM »
JUCO players have like a 5% success rate at the next level. It’s weird.
Did you pull that stat out the same ass you head is up in?

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« Reply #1147 on: February 21, 2021, 08:42:42 PM »
Bro, are you ok?

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« Reply #1148 on: February 21, 2021, 09:47:23 PM »
Massey, Reid, Hatcher, Williams among the wooly/Asbury juco recruits who would be the best player on this squad.

Justin Williams?  :ROFL: lol, knock that crap off. You've gone mad.

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« Reply #1149 on: February 21, 2021, 09:50:48 PM »
EMAWZIFRED PROBABLY THINKS HE WOULD BE THE BEST PLAYER ON THIS TEAM.


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