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[8manpick]

I don't like how our basketball program has changed...Makes me sad.

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Bad personality doesn't trump good performance (if we had good performance), but having a personality that encourages people to like you or even be just OK with you is a good quality to have when you're the face of something that requires fans.

Sure. If you're talking about currie, his continual success with all types of donors would indicate his personality isn't an issue.

What are the donor "type" categories?

http://www.ahearnfund.com/giving/levels/

Ha.  For evaluating purposes, you'd have to add a category of people who could/might donate but don't.

[kitten_mittons]

Let's list some reasons why we think oscar Weber will be able to turn around the basketball program.  I can't think of anything at the moment, but I'm sure some of you will be able to.

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[Catchacold]

having a personality that encourages people to like you or even be just OK with you is a good quality to have when you're the face of something that requires fans.

and recruiting/coaching/managing other people

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diaper bag-carry'n moms

When KU announces that they are joining the long list of teams adopting the clear bag policy, I wonder if their diaper bag-carry'n moms will be as vocal...

Probably not, because Cheyenne Zulu - if he even needed to see how lol it would play out - will have watched how KSU mumped it up and roll it out correctly.

I don't think KSU rolled out the clear bag policy incorrectly. People don't like change. When KU announces it, people will complain.

For fans like Hofer and Moore who have questions about diaper bags, K-State offered the following response: “Diapers and other baby supplies can be carried in a clear bag. Each member of a family, including children, would be allowed to carry an approved clear bag and a clutch purse into the venue.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article62263627.html#storylink=cpy

You guys should have Vulture engineer up a special EMAW clear bag that attaches to the baby itself.

[CNS]

I don't like how our basketball program has changed...Makes me sad.

Yep

[captaincrap]

Bad personality doesn't trump good performance (if we had good performance), but having a personality that encourages people to like you or even be just OK with you is a good quality to have when you're the face of something that requires fans.

Sure. If you're talking about currie, his continual success with all types of donors would indicate his personality isn't an issue.

What are the donor "type" categories?

http://www.ahearnfund.com/giving/levels/

Ha.  For evaluating purposes, you'd have to add a category of people who could/might donate but don't.

Do you think that category is larger or more significant than those that do?

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Bad personality doesn't trump good performance (if we had good performance), but having a personality that encourages people to like you or even be just OK with you is a good quality to have when you're the face of something that requires fans.

Sure. If you're talking about currie, his continual success with all types of donors would indicate his personality isn't an issue.

What are the donor "type" categories?

http://www.ahearnfund.com/giving/levels/

Ha.  For evaluating purposes, you'd have to add a category of people who could/might donate but don't.

Do you think that category is larger or more significant than those that do?

I think it's necessary to determine how many people KSU would like to give them money actually give them money.  Not entirely sure that's indicative of whether people support Currie.  The last time I donated was to complete a credit card spend.

Of course, I agree with you that Currie is 100% successful in the statistic of actual donors to K-State donating to K-State.

[DQ12]

I'm fine with Currie.  BBTF and the BSFS expansions make me feel very good about him -- the Frank issue and Weber hiring were bad, but I'm willing to give him a shot at not screwing up what should be two slam dunk, common sense hires in the next 2-3 years (Venables and Underwood).  Assuming he's capable of hiring them, I think basketball and football are in great shape for the foreseeable future, especially coupled with his fundraising acumen.

I take more issue with Schulz (notably "EMAW").

[CNS]

My concern with currie would be if coaches would take issue working under him given the frank run off.

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My concern with currie would be if coaches would take issue working under him given the frank run off.

Or Snyder talking bad to anybody that doesn't Pinkel him.

[sys]

I'm willing to go after Brad because he has been really successful where he's at (I fully realize its in a low major conference), he has been here as an assistant recently while we were winning at a high level, AND he's got K-State ties. If he just had 2 of those 3, I wouldn't want to take a chance on him, but that given that combo I think he can have at least the same level of success as oscar can.

he was also very successful as a juco hc in florida.  he's been successful in three different levels of bball in three different geographic areas.  he has never not been successful.  in his current position he's been successful to a degree that is very close to unprecedented on any level of college basketball.

underwood is not just my first choice.  he's my only choice.  if kstate is too stupid to hire him, kstate can die in a house fire with all of its fans in it.

[kitten_mittons]

I'm willing to go after Brad because he has been really successful where he's at (I fully realize its in a low major conference), he has been here as an assistant recently while we were winning at a high level, AND he's got K-State ties. If he just had 2 of those 3, I wouldn't want to take a chance on him, but that given that combo I think he can have at least the same level of success as oscar can.

he was also very successful as a juco hc in florida.  he's been successful in three different levels of bball in three different geographic areas.  he has never not been successful.  in his current position he's been successful to a degree that is very close to unprecedented on any level of college basketball.

underwood is not just my first choice.  he's my only choice.  if kstate is too stupid to hire him, kstate can die in a house fire with all of its fans in it.

I doubt he would come here if Currie is still running the squad.

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[michigancat]

I'm willing to go after Brad because he has been really successful where he's at (I fully realize its in a low major conference), he has been here as an assistant recently while we were winning at a high level, AND he's got K-State ties. If he just had 2 of those 3, I wouldn't want to take a chance on him, but that given that combo I think he can have at least the same level of success as oscar can.

he was also very successful as a juco hc in florida.  he's been successful in three different levels of bball in three different geographic areas.  he has never not been successful.  in his current position he's been successful to a degree that is very close to unprecedented on any level of college basketball.

underwood is not just my first choice.  he's my only choice.  if kstate is too stupid to hire him, kstate can die in a house fire with all of its fans in it.

He was 62-60 in 4 seasons at Dodge City. But you are right what he is doing at SFA is pretty much unprecedented. I mean, losing one conference game over three seasons is ridiculous.

[sys]

i don't give a crap if currie is here or not.  if he won't, or can't, hire underwood, then fire him.

[PowercatPat]

I'm willing to go after Brad because he has been really successful where he's at (I fully realize its in a low major conference), he has been here as an assistant recently while we were winning at a high level, AND he's got K-State ties. If he just had 2 of those 3, I wouldn't want to take a chance on him, but that given that combo I think he can have at least the same level of success as oscar can.

he was also very successful as a juco hc in florida.  he's been successful in three different levels of bball in three different geographic areas.  he has never not been successful.  in his current position he's been successful to a degree that is very close to unprecedented on any level of college basketball.

underwood is not just my first choice.  he's my only choice.  if kstate is too stupid to hire him, kstate can die in a house fire with all of its fans in it.

I doubt he would come here if Currie is still running the squad.

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I don't think there's any way he would turn down a huge raise at his alma mater if we're hiring him from SFA. Not a chance.

[sys]

He was 62-60 in 4 seasons at Dodge City.

additional data often tends to be complicating.  i wish i hadn't been made aware of this.

[kso_FAN]

I don't think there's any way he would turn down a huge raise at his alma mater if we're hiring him from SFA. Not a chance.

Yeah I'm pretty sure time (and $2 Mil per) heals all (or at least most) wounds.

[420seriouscat69]

Brad was 62-60 at Dodge City, but yes sys, he's been successful everywhere else.

[chum1]

Dodge City is a notoriously easy place to win.

[chum1]

Are we sure that Brad can win with his own players!?!?

[TownieCat]

BU was in his 20s at DCCC. He went 70-24 at Daytona Beach CC.

[michigancat]

Are we sure that Brad can win with his own players!?!?

Two of his starters and his leading scorer ARE holdovers.

However

He also starts a freshman and a sophomore (which I think is pretty rare for good teams at that level. Although I don't know this for sure because I have never paid attention to a team at that level)

[AppleJack]

I have enjoyed this thread so far and would like to thank all participants.

[chum1]

Are we sure that Brad can win with his own players!?!?

Two of his starters and his leading scorer ARE holdovers.

However

He also starts a freshman and a sophomore (which I think is pretty rare for good teams at that level. Although I don't know this for sure because I have never paid attention to a team at that level)

I'm pretty sure that means he can only win with other coaches' players.