I need Scott-ch (lots of it); Baylor ADV

[michigancat]

Is Wes better/worse than Dom?

That's a pretty good comparison actually. Wes is probably better at offense but Dom was better at defense.

I was gonna say the opposite. Dom could actually make a J every once in a while.

eh, not really. Dom had the luxury of sharing the floor with much better offensive options than him (Denis/Jake/Jamar/CK) that probably generated better looks/more opportunities, but he was not someone you wanted taking jump shots, like ever.

[kso_FAN]

Is Wes better/worse than Dom?

That's a pretty good comparison actually. Wes is probably better at offense but Dom was better at defense.

I was gonna say the opposite. Dom could actually make a J every once in a while.

Dom had that one Nebraska game where he made nearly a third (3) of his career makes (11) from 3.

[ChiComCat]

Yea, Dom went off on offense for about a 3 game stretch there   

[AppleJack]

Is Wes better/worse than Dom?

That's a pretty good comparison actually. Wes is probably better at offense but Dom was better at defense.

I was gonna say the opposite. Dom could actually make a J every once in a while.

Dom had that one Nebraska game where he made nearly a third (3) of his career makes (11) from 3.

I stand corrected. I would have guess he made way more than 11.

[Aggievillian]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Super frustrated with Wes.  45 minutes and had 7 turnovers and only one PF.  Feel like he is trying too hard on offense and not hard enough on defense...

He has some amazingly bad unforced turnovers.

Why did he dribble the ball to the baseline and then step on the baseline so much last night? I'm LBBIQ but that seems like a really inefficient basketball play which never leads to scoring the basketball (as StanBot loves to say).

 

[kso_FAN]

Super frustrated with Wes.  45 minutes and had 7 turnovers and only one PF.  Feel like he is trying too hard on offense and not hard enough on defense...

He has some amazingly bad unforced turnovers.

Why did he dribble the ball to the baseline and then step on the baseline so much last night? I'm LBBIQ but that seems like a really inefficient basketball play which never leads to scoring the basketball (as StanBot loves to say).

 

The concept of driving the ball low to the short corner/baseline to flatten a zone is a decent one, but players have to move the ball quickly once they get there before they get trapped or run out of room.

Also, the real adjustment Baylor made in the 2nd half (besides playing harder) was taking away the high post and dropping their backside wings. We were able to move the ball side to side and extend their wings in the 1st half because we entered the high post so much. That allowed us to get the ball diagonal to the block or the lob to the weakside or just get shots at the high post. Of course when we did get it there in the 2nd half we didn't make those shots anyway. And the Hurt shots from the short corners were a disaster.

[kstate4life]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

I would take Dom over Wes anyday.  Late in the game last night Wes had a wide open J from 10 ft out in the middle of the paint, and instead of shooting it he threw it at DJamer's feet.  Wes has continuously regressed over his time at K-State.  In fact, I can't think of any oscar recruit that has actually improved from where they started.  I am convinced that all these new freshman are as good as they'll get under oscar.

[slobber]

Dribble to the short corner is "Red" on dobberjr's team. Ball side big seals his man. The other big goes high post. It's pretty effective for jv Jr. High boys.


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[kso_FAN]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

I would take Dom over Wes anyday.  Late in the game last night Wes had a wide open J from 10 ft out in the middle of the paint, and instead of shooting it he threw it at DJamer's feet.  Wes has continuously regressed over his time at K-State.  In fact, I can't think of any oscar recruit that has actually improved from where they started.  I am convinced that all these new freshman are as good as they'll get under oscar.

Actually everyone has improved at least slightly from last year, but Wes was probably better as a freshman though. The problem is no one has improved enough; oscar needed at least 1 of the returners to not just get better, but play at an all league level. No one is doing that. Plus, there just aren't a lot of returners.

[kstate4life]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

I would take Dom over Wes anyday.  Late in the game last night Wes had a wide open J from 10 ft out in the middle of the paint, and instead of shooting it he threw it at DJamer's feet.  Wes has continuously regressed over his time at K-State.  In fact, I can't think of any oscar recruit that has actually improved from where they started.  I am convinced that all these new freshman are as good as they'll get under oscar.

Actually everyone has improved at least slightly from last year, but Wes was probably better as a freshman though. The problem is no one has improved enough; oscar needed at least 1 of the returners to not just get better, but play at an all league level. No one is doing that. Plus, there just aren't a lot of returners.

The stats might be better, only because they have been forced to take over since everyone else left.  Do you really think Hurt has improved?  There was an article in the Eagle yesterday stating that oscar was specifically going to try and get Hurt more jump shots last night to help with the zone.  And he did... but Hurt missed every single one of them.  I think Edwards could be the only player that has slightly improved from last year, but he is still and won't be the player they said he would be.  DJamer is about the same from before the injury.

[kso_FAN]

Yeah, Hurt is about the same. He's improved a ton in dboarding, but oboarding is worse. Shooting is also worse.

Edwards is better at everything pretty much.

DJamer is shooting better and boarding about the same. Plus he is our only shot blocker.

And Wes is better at most things than last year (still a TO machine), but he was better at almost everything as a freshman than he is this year.

[Skipper44]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

I would take Dom over Wes anyday.  Late in the game last night Wes had a wide open J from 10 ft out in the middle of the paint, and instead of shooting it he threw it at DJamer's feet.  Wes has continuously regressed over his time at K-State.  In fact, I can't think of any oscar recruit that has actually improved from where they started.  I am convinced that all these new freshman are as good as they'll get under oscar.

Actually everyone has improved at least slightly from last year, but Wes was probably better as a freshman though. The problem is no one has improved enough; oscar needed at least 1 of the returners to not just get better, but play at an all league level. No one is doing that. Plus, there just aren't a lot of returners.

This is what all of Wooldridge's teams and most of oscar's teams he has put together himself have always needed - a defining offensive player that can get points on his own.  Wes will never be that guy vs a zone, especially a long one like Baylors. 

Maybe Sneed is that guy because I don't think Brown has quite the size/shooting range/handle/athleticism to be it at the Big 12 level.

[Cire]

we had almost back to back times in the 2nd half where DJamer stepped on the end line twice to turn it over.

[mhkpasa]

we had almost back to back times in the 2nd half where DJamer stepped on the end line twice to turn it over.

I mean, if Claws sinks that wide open elbow jumper...

[PIPE]

DJamer can't just go up with the ball. He has to slam it down in hatred before going up..... By then the defense has recovered or he just steps out of bounds....

[Aggievillian]

I think Dom is one of the worst comparisons ever.  Dom was more of a bruiser that would dunk on about anyone and played hard D.  Exact opposite of Westicles who attempts to finesse.  I guess both are not good at shooting the J? 

I would take Dom over Wes anyday.  Late in the game last night Wes had a wide open J from 10 ft out in the middle of the paint, and instead of shooting it he threw it at DJamer's feet.  Wes has continuously regressed over his time at K-State.  In fact, I can't think of any oscar recruit that has actually improved from where they started.  I am convinced that all these new freshman are as good as they'll get under oscar.

Actually everyone has improved at least slightly from last year, but Wes was probably better as a freshman though. The problem is no one has improved enough; oscar needed at least 1 of the returners to not just get better, but play at an all league level. No one is doing that. Plus, there just aren't a lot of returners.

This is what all of Wooldridge's teams and most of oscar's teams he has put together himself have always needed - a defining offensive player that can get points on his own.  Wes will never be that guy vs a zone, especially a long one like Baylors. 

Maybe Sneed is that guy because I don't think Brown has quite the size/shooting range/handle/athleticism to be it at the Big 12 level.

Disagree completely with this statement.  Dude has more size/handles and athleticism than one of our all time greats.  If he can work on his range (much like Pullen did over his career) he will be great in our conference.  Will it translate to NBA level talent...not likely, but dude should have no problem competing in the BigXII considering he already is for the most part.

[Skipper44]

This is what all of Wooldridge's teams and most of oscar's teams he has put together himself have always needed - a defining offensive player that can get points on his own.  Wes will never be that guy vs a zone, especially a long one like Baylors. 

Maybe Sneed is that guy because I don't think Brown has quite the size/shooting range/handle/athleticism to be it at the Big 12 level.

Disagree completely with this statement.  Dude has more size/handles and athleticism than one of our all time greats.  If he can work on his range (much like Pullen did over his career) he will be great in our conference.  Will it translate to NBA level talent...not likely, but dude should have no problem competing in the BigXII considering he already is for the most part.

It's not about competing, its about finding the guy that can score and/or create points at the end of a road game and win.  I hope I am wrong and I admit I would have laughed at the thought that Pullen would become the program's leading scorer even after he showed remarkable skill and poise as a freshman. 

Even if Snead is just Wes with a Big 12 average jumper  I can see the core of Stokes, Brown, Snead and Wade + Center by Big Meat Brigade as a top of the Big 12 team but I said similar things about Wes, Foster and Malek Harris.

[ChiComCat]

Need someone who can attack/draw a foul to stop 5 minute scoring droughts