Author Topic: It's Leavitt (Read 73054 times)

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #125 on:** December 30, 2016, 06:58:40 PM »

The next guy needs to be able to coach up 2 stars or recruit at a MUCH higher level, I don't see either happening, I think good football at ksu will walk out the door with Bill

We need to put all our efforts into basketball, way easier to be great.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #126 on:** December 30, 2016, 06:59:19 PM »

Jumping from Pitt State to the equivalent of the ACC is the same as auburn or directional michigan
#goEtard

CHONGS · « **Reply #127 on:** December 30, 2016, 06:59:22 PM »

As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.

michigancat · « **Reply #128 on:** December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM

leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.

Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

steve dave · « **Reply #129 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:00:36 PM »

I think you are underselling leavitt's ability to recruit, and most any coach's ability to. I can go into a long winded specifics reason why this is but the summary is Bill doesn't allow his guys to really hit the trail in favor of spending time with their butts in the seat at home. that has been amazing for us with bill obviously. maybe that's the only way you can win at KSU, but I don't think that's accurate.

steve dave · « **Reply #130 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.

steve dave · « **Reply #131 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:04:00 PM »

Quote from: Chingon on December 30, 2016, 06:59:22 PM

As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.

he's old AF. obviously it's for ~5 years unless he's great then he can coach until he dies like our current coach.

steve dave · « **Reply #132 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:05:06 PM »

I'm pissed off I'm defending JL as a HC candidate at KSU because I'm very MEH about it.

chum1 · « **Reply #133 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:08:12 PM »

Zero meltdown for me if we did not pursue Leavitt.

Castle Bravo if we did not pursue Brenvy.

steve dave · « **Reply #134 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:09:57 PM »

I'd absolutely take BV ahead of JL. It's a higher upside option. I think it could go down in flames harder as well, which is good for not being stuck in mediocrity which JL could put us in.

michigancat · « **Reply #135 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:12:20 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.

I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

Trim · « **Reply #136 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:16:26 PM »

When Jim Leavitt is available, you lock that crap down.

kim carnes · « **Reply #137 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:17:37 PM »

Unless you're intentionally trying to make a bad hire it would be pretty hard to make a worse hire than leavitt. It would be an unbelievably crappy hire.

steve dave · « **Reply #138 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:12:20 PM

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.

wetwillie · « **Reply #139 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:26:15 PM »

He choked a player. We get it for fucks sake.

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #140 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:26:47 PM »

500,000 base salary, 1 mill bonus for every win over 8. Weed out unconfident losers

michigancat · « **Reply #141 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:33:48 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.

who did he recruit to cu?

Pete · « **Reply #142 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:36:49 PM »

I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.

steve dave · « **Reply #143 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:39:35 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:33:48 PM

Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.

who did he recruit to cu?

michigancat · « **Reply #144 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:41:52 PM »

Quote from: Pete on December 30, 2016, 07:36:49 PM

I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire? Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.

I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason

steve dave · « **Reply #145 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:44:37 PM »

JC wants a big win. I don't believe he wants another BW and I honestly believe he knows that was a loser hire. whether he actually hires someone worth a crap is another story. but I have a good amount of faith he's not going to punt like the weber hire.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #146 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:47:49 PM »

I'm cool gambling like a madman in basketball hires because of the ability to turn something terrible around quickly. Football is harder. That makes me more ok with meh hires like leavitt. I'm also assuming that our good assistants stay and the super old or bad ones are dealt with appropriately. Still don't think we would hire him though but who knows.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #147 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:51:08 PM »

Quote from: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 05:56:55 PM

Quote from: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
Why would Purdue pay more than us?

No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.

You brought up the Big 10. You clearly don't think we measure up to the Big 10's middle class comprised of Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern, and Indiana, so you think we belong with the garbagey Purdue, Illinois, Rutgers, and Maryland. I firmly disagree, we would fit into the Big 10 middle class easily. Mike Riley only makes $2.7 million, that isn't crap, KU could afford that for a coach if they needed to. Since you don't think we can hang.with Northwestern I'd be interested to know who you think we compare to.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #148 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:53:08 PM »

I don't care what he did at USF. However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him. He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.

steve dave · « **Reply #149 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:53:16 PM »

MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?