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« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2015, 07:40:30 PM »

i want to know who fsd is  :popcorn:

I know, it's not very interesting. Same with most of us.

i know an easy way to find out without using ip address but i didnt make the smartest list so im not gonna say  :frown:

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« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2015, 07:41:08 PM »
really the only advantage to being a mod is knowing who all the socks are.  amazed they have the strength to hold back the info.  but information is power
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« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2015, 07:44:19 PM »
Lol at MIR whining about name calling

What separates observation from whining? You can't possibly think I care about those guys calling me names. Their rage is odd to me but I also find it intoxicating. Your sock is far more infuriating to me because I'm about 95% sure who it belongs to and in your mind you're contributing to good message boarding but frankly I think you believe this crap you post but are too much of a coward to use your screen name because everyone knows who you are.

95% of your posts involve insulting someone followed by further insulting them for disagreeing with your perverted point of view, followed by some stupid link, followed by an insult.

And larger lol at accusing someone using a moniker on a message board of being a coward, make it rain.

I've met like 75% of the regular posters on this board and I use my government on twitter that has been quoted lots on gE.  It would take any poster who cares about 5 minutes to find my name, picture, and where I live all on this blog. I very well may be the least anonymous person here. I also don't have a sock devoted to expressing intolerance, according to some, I do that well enough with this account.

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« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2015, 07:51:35 PM »
I've met like 75% of the regular posters on this board and I use my government on twitter that has been quoted lots on gE.  It would take any poster who cares about 5 minutes to find my name, picture, and where I live all on this blog. I very well may be the least anonymous person here. I also don't have a sock devoted to expressing intolerance, according to some, I do that well enough with this account.

i think someone else has that title locked up forever  :lol:

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Re: Official Black Lives Matter Thread
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2015, 07:52:10 PM »
"Intolerance"
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« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2015, 08:18:06 PM »
I've met like 75% of the regular posters on this board and I use my government on twitter that has been quoted lots on gE.  It would take any poster who cares about 5 minutes to find my name, picture, and where I live all on this blog. I very well may be the least anonymous person here. I also don't have a sock devoted to expressing intolerance, according to some, I do that well enough with this account.

i think someone else has that title locked up forever  :lol:

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« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2015, 09:07:56 AM »
Black lives should matter just as much as any other lives. But, uh, harassing people and hurting businesses doesn't seem like a very effective way to get that message across. It appears that the BL Movement has been infiltrated by the same commie/fascist/anarchist elements that glom onto so many "progressive" causes.

Yes, you're right black lives should matter as much as others, thank you for agreeing. Civil disobedience is the only way progress has been made with regards to civil rights historically. The United States had to win a war to free the slaves, no real progress was made until the sit ins and bridge closures of the 60s, many people were unjustly jailed and murdered during this time. Now there is another movement and forgive me for not showing empathy for you being inconvenienced by having to read about the occasional protests given the price this country has had to pay historically to see progress.

Blocking traffic or access to a private business is not "civil disobedience." Civil disobedience is "the refusal to comply with certain laws or to pay taxes and fines, as a peaceful form of political protest." For example, refusing to ride at the back of a bus or comply with other segregation laws.

That's an important distinction, which you have evidently missed. I think it's fair to assume that a lot of people in the BL Movement fail to grasp that distinction.

I have no idea why you put progressive in quotes, the only people who have politicized the Black Lives Matter movement are people on the right who are marginalizing the movement. There isn't a thing political about advancing race relations.

I put it in quotes because you are right, there is nothing inherently "progressive" about advocating for civil rights. And yet it's always the same "progressive" crowd doing the protesting - just a new cause, and it's always boils down to the same crazies with their underlying agendas: Occupy Wall Street, any number of "Green" movements, now Black Lives Matter. Are you telling me these are fundamentally different people? They're not. They're being supported and promoted by the same pack of professional agitators and protestors who flit from cause to cause. At root, they are communists/anarchists/fascists/hardcore socialists/etc.
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Re: Official Black Lives Matter Thread
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2015, 09:35:53 AM »
Professional agitators  :love:
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« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2015, 10:38:53 AM »
WRLM

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« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2015, 11:07:17 AM »
you can't exactly change society operating by its rules.

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« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2015, 11:10:47 AM »
Why isn't blocking traffic considered "civil disobedience"? Also, lol at thinking BLM, Occupy, and "green" protestors are the same group

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« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2015, 11:16:27 AM »
Why isn't blocking traffic considered "civil disobedience"? Also, lol at thinking BLM, Occupy, and "green" protestors are the same group

because the literal definition fits his narrative.

Technically, they formed a parade that blocked traffic without applying for a permit, so maybe it does fit the literal definition.

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« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2015, 11:20:44 AM »
I want all BLM rallies to have better megaphones.  The audio quality of all that I've seen has been horrible, both on video and in person.

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« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2015, 11:21:28 AM »
I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

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« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2015, 11:25:32 AM »
Why isn't blocking traffic considered "civil disobedience"? Also, lol at thinking BLM, Occupy, and "green" protestors are the same group

because the literal definition fits his narrative.

Technically, they formed a parade that blocked traffic without applying for a permit, so maybe it does fit the literal definition.
His literal definition was ""the refusal to comply with certain laws or to pay taxes and fines, as a peaceful form of political protest."

Blocking traffic seems to fall directly under "refusal to comply certain laws as a peaceful form of political protest"

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« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2015, 11:29:18 AM »
Why isn't blocking traffic considered "civil disobedience"? Also, lol at thinking BLM, Occupy, and "green" protestors are the same group

because the literal definition fits his narrative.

Technically, they formed a parade that blocked traffic without applying for a permit, so maybe it does fit the literal definition.
His literal definition was ""the refusal to comply with certain laws or to pay taxes and fines, as a peaceful form of political protest."

Blocking traffic seems to fall directly under "refusal to comply certain laws as a peaceful form of political protest"

we're in agreement.

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« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2015, 11:36:40 AM »
I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

This. You guys can try to contort the definition of civil disobedience to equate being an bad person to disobeying segregation laws, but you just look really silly in doing so.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2015, 11:40:02 AM »


I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

A very large portion of Americans viewed civil rights protesters as a bunch of assholes blocking traffic or keeping people from eating at their favorite restaurant.

It's much easier to sympathize with the benefit of hindsight.

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« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2015, 11:46:36 AM »
Why isn't blocking traffic considered "civil disobedience"? Also, lol at thinking BLM, Occupy, and "green" protestors are the same group

because the literal definition fits his narrative.

Technically, they formed a parade that blocked traffic without applying for a permit, so maybe it does fit the literal definition.
His literal definition was ""the refusal to comply with certain laws or to pay taxes and fines, as a peaceful form of political protest."

Blocking traffic seems to fall directly under "refusal to comply certain laws as a peaceful form of political protest"

we're in agreement.

While back in reality, the two of you dolts are refusing to acknowledge an obvious distinction in order to fit your narrative.
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« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2015, 11:46:49 AM »
I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

This. You guys can try to contort the definition of civil disobedience to equate being an bad person to disobeying segregation laws, but you just look really silly in doing so.

at its roots, the point of a protest is to inconvenience society in a manner that generates awareness for whatever social change the movement wants. a protest also needs to generate empathy and support, which this movement has failed to do in a lot of ways, but that isn't what we're arguing here. you're a proponent of the status quo. i wouldn't find it surprising if you equated every protest movement to behaving like an bad person. that's pretty much what a protest movement is, the success of the movement hinges on whether or not you're able to win people over to your side once you've interrupted their day-to-day routine.

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« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2015, 11:47:44 AM »


I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

A very large portion of Americans viewed civil rights protesters as a bunch of assholes blocking traffic or keeping people from eating at their favorite restaurant.

It's much easier to sympathize with the benefit of hindsight.

You're being stupid. The target of the civil disobedience of the 60s was the very segregation they were fighting. The target of the BLM protests - at least the ones we're discussing - are innocent people trying to travel / shop for the holidays. No amount of hindsight changes that. You don't need hindsight - you need some common sense.
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« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2015, 11:48:54 AM »




I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

A very large portion of Americans viewed civil rights protesters as a bunch of assholes blocking traffic or keeping people from eating at their favorite restaurant.

It's much easier to sympathize with the benefit of hindsight.

You're being stupid. The target of the civil disobedience of the 60s was the very segregation they were fighting. The target of the BLM protests - at least the ones we're discussing - are innocent people trying to travel / shop for the holidays. No amount of hindsight changes that. You don't need hindsight - you need some common sense.

I'm sure many white people who wanted to take the bus or eat at their favorite restaurant in the 60's felt they were innocent, too.

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2015, 11:51:35 AM »
I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

This. You guys can try to contort the definition of civil disobedience to equate being an bad person to disobeying segregation laws, but you just look really silly in doing so.

you're a proponent of the status quo. i wouldn't find it surprising if you equated every protest movement to behaving like an bad person. that's pretty much what a protest movement is

Again, what a completely ridiculous thing to say. I support many protests - if they are targeted at the problem, as opposed to innocent people. That's the point you and others fail to grasp.
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I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

A very large portion of Americans viewed civil rights protesters as a bunch of assholes blocking traffic or keeping people from eating at their favorite restaurant.

It's much easier to sympathize with the benefit of hindsight.

You're being stupid. The target of the civil disobedience of the 60s was the very segregation they were fighting. The target of the BLM protests - at least the ones we're discussing - are innocent people trying to travel / shop for the holidays. No amount of hindsight changes that. You don't need hindsight - you need some common sense.

I'm sure many white people who wanted to take the bus or eat at their favorite restaurant in the 60's felt they were innocent, too.

What was the airport doing that warranted it being shut down?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2015, 11:54:02 AM »




I think a major difference between the recent BLM protests and older civil rights protests is that the older protests were directed at oppressors and these protests are not. The image portrayed by a group of people getting beaten, spit on, etc for having the nerve to expect to get served at a restaurant or ride in the front of a bus is far more effective than the image portrayed by a bunch of assholes blocking an airport so people who have absolutely nothing to do with them miss Christmas dinner.

A very large portion of Americans viewed civil rights protesters as a bunch of assholes blocking traffic or keeping people from eating at their favorite restaurant.

It's much easier to sympathize with the benefit of hindsight.

You're being stupid. The target of the civil disobedience of the 60s was the very segregation they were fighting. The target of the BLM protests - at least the ones we're discussing - are innocent people trying to travel / shop for the holidays. No amount of hindsight changes that. You don't need hindsight - you need some common sense.

I'm sure many white people who wanted to take the bus or eat at their favorite restaurant in the 60's felt they were innocent, too.

What was the airport doing that warranted it being shut down?
What was the highway between Selma and Montgomery doing wrong?