Doug Gottlieb on 810 WHB The Program with Soren Petro

[Rage Against the McKee]

The basketball program is only as bad as the athletic department allows it to be.

[420seriouscat69]

Prince was the best ksu coach (except for his predecessor) since forever, probably should have kept him!

Yeah, that's what I said. 

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Every answer Doug gave is exactly how I would expect Gene Keady to answer.  To anyone who listened did it sound like Doug or did it sound more like Gene Keady pretending to be Doug?

[star seed 7]

Prince was the best ksu coach (except for his predecessor) since forever, probably should have kept him!

Yeah, that's what I said. 

Well you limited it to 25 years instead of forever

[kslim]

Every answer Doug gave is exactly how I would expect Gene Keady to answer.  To anyone who listened did it sound like Doug or did it sound more like Gene Keady pretending to be Doug?

it sounded like every question he answered was a mic drop in his mind but soren clown suited him afterwards and then he became uncomfortable.

[420seriouscat69]

Shouldn't you be obsessing over dax somewhere, lib? I still think Doug is kissing ass, because he thinks he has a legit shot to be the next HC and he's not trying to burn any bridges.

[kso_FAN]

Not that it matters much, but neither of Altman's NIT teams makes it under the current NIT selection.

That is because they are both NCAA teams.

Well, not '91-'92.

ISU got in with a 5-9 Big 8 record that year.

The 93-94 team wasn't that good and it was very disappointing because a lot came back from the previous year.

[star seed 7]

Shouldn't you be obsessing over dax somewhere, lib? I still think Doug is kissing ass, because he thinks he has a legit shot to be the next HC and he's not trying to burn any bridges.

Sorry to drop that truth bomb on you

[420seriouscat69]

You didn't drop anything. You never have a well rounded thought when it comes to sports. You should probably stay in the pit.

[kslim]

Not that it matters much, but neither of Altman's NIT teams makes it under the current NIT selection.

That is because they are both NCAA teams.

Well, not '91-'92.

ISU got in with a 5-9 Big 8 record that year.

The 93-94 team wasn't that good and it was very disappointing because a lot came back from the previous year.

anthony beane was a senior that year right?

[star seed 7]

Yup, that's what i'm saying. 

so what were you saying?

That he's performed as well as any coach (minus frank) since the late 80's to early 90's. I said it above. 

Keep him!

[kso_FAN]

Not that it matters much, but neither of Altman's NIT teams makes it under the current NIT selection.

That is because they are both NCAA teams.

Well, not '91-'92.

ISU got in with a 5-9 Big 8 record that year.

The 93-94 team wasn't that good and it was very disappointing because a lot came back from the previous year.

anthony beane was a senior that year right?

Yes.

The last part of the season was terrible. The last couple years were similar actually.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Not that it matters much, but neither of Altman's NIT teams makes it under the current NIT selection.

That is because they are both NCAA teams.

Well, not '91-'92.

ISU got in with a 5-9 Big 8 record that year.

The 93-94 team wasn't that good and it was very disappointing because a lot came back from the previous year.

Sounds like next year's team.

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Absent some sort of misconduct coming to light, it would be highly unethical to terminate oscar.  KSU was one of a number of schools that sought out the oscar weber experience, and oscar chose and relied on KSU to allow him to deliver it and see it through.  He's delivered.

[420seriouscat69]

Yup, that's what i'm saying. 

so what were you saying?

That he's performed as well as any coach (minus frank) since the late 80's to early 90's. I said it above. 

Keep him!

Ron Prince had a losing record, 1 bowl appearance, and nothing else to show for it minus a few upset wins vs Texas. oscar Weber has won the big 12 conference and will likely go to his 3rd tourney appearance in 5 years. He's not getting fired if he makes it happen, dummy, and he shouldn't.

[Cartierfor3]

Wacky, of course oscar is better than Wooly/Asbury, those are the two worst coaches in KSU basketball history.  Being better than them is not a reason to keep your job.

Well include Altman to that list, but yeah.

Altman's team is ranked like 5th in the country rn

Hindsight, but yeah. He didn't do much here.

That's not hindsight its right now sight.


oscar isn't getting fired unless they really really tank the next 5 weeks or whatever is left, so I suspect you can have this argument again next season WC08

[420seriouscat69]

Like I said, if he tanks, peace out!

[yoga-like_abana]

If we can't find a frank aka stud coach that fit our fan base at the time but not our AD then I am all for the cats hiring a coach that has assts that have heavy aau ties and then once those ties dry up we fire and rinse and repeat that process.

[Cartierfor3]

Like I said, if he tanks, peace out!

he already did a year ago

[hatingfrancisco]

Although his four-year tenure as Kansas State’s head coach produced one NCAA Tournament appearance, Dana Altman will be remembered most for his ability to win close ball games, and for pulling off some of the biggest upsets in school history.

[ksupamplemousse]

oscar Weber will coach here until he decides he doesn't want to anymore. He'll make the tourney somewhere around 2-3 time every five years and probably will never win a game there. John Currie does not give a flying eff if we're competitive in basketball. He cares that the program makes a reasonable profit and stays out of the news. To pretend otherwise would to be as foolish as I've been this entire year. He's never going anywhere. This conversation is pointless.

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Setting aside the antagonistic tone, 'mousse is one of the good ones.

[ksupamplemousse]

Setting aside the antagonistic tone, 'mousse is one of the good ones.

I'm just a beaten man.

[GregKSU1027]

Listen, if he doesn't make the tourney this year, kick his ass to the curb. Just saying, growing up through the really shitty years makes you step back and look at it from a different angle.

really? like say going to school there during wooly like most of us did. if it wasnt for the likes of massey and such we would have been ku football bad...

oscar is a proven loser when he doesnt take over a stocked cupboard and eff currie for not seeing that

Yeah and I'm here with Oscar

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[catastrophe]

oscar Weber will coach here until he decides he doesn't want to anymore. He'll make the tourney somewhere around 2-3 time every five years and probably will never win a game there. John Currie does not give a flying eff if we're competitive in basketball. He cares that the program makes a reasonable profit and stays out of the news. To pretend otherwise would to be as foolish as I've been this entire year. He's never going anywhere. This conversation is pointless.

I know this is a major go-to talking point on this board for why Currie sucks, but this is like, exactly what an AD's job is.