Fine you don't want a discussion, here we go.... (Where did I say I didn't want a discussion, I said you can't discuss this with people like you, I'm tearing you to shreds here, so you keep moving the goalposts to try and make a point, but you're not making any that aren't already understood).
You're a rough ridin' liar. You haven't posted half the crap you claim to have. (you're hilarious and slow, I see you commenting on articles that were posted by others when I posted the same articles days before, the articles from the Atlantic about the campus situations are perfect examples) no response to show proof you didnt lie, because you know, you're lying, again. Nice
You're lying about saying was Turkey running guns for their own interests because you said it was Obama/CIA doing it. You are lying about linking it to the Iraq war in a meaningful way. (I have never said it was ONLY the Obama/CIA doing it, but this is willful ignorance of how the CIA has been unleashed by this administration. The Intelligence complex that the U.S. runs is massive, for example there's more then ample proof that U.S. intelligence was running former Libyan military weapons into Syria, and as I said that's just one example. The CIA has been unleashed by this administration)
Once again you aren't recognizing the facts about other countries you say are our allies acting in their own interests. You have no response by deflection back to Libya. Tap out bitch, you've lost this point every time you try to respond. You say it's one example, but it's your only "example" that you flail with. It's weak and doesn't scratch the surface of what is going on.
The rest of your bullshit has no intellectual basis. Everything you are claiming about news sources is bullshit because your talking points you recite daily betray you. (You don't like the talking points so you talk all over yourself and conjure up stawman, because as I've said you clearly cannot handle any criticism of this administration) I have no problem criticizing this admin and their repeated failures. I have a problem with rough ridin' blowhards like you running your rough ridin' mouths like you know what you're talking about polluting America. You should read a book or shut up. Facts are not strawmen.
If you find something on google news and post it, it doesn't make up for the hundreds of posts you have practically weekly, that say the opposite. (Just more personal can't handle any criticism BS)
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You're an intellectual coward (note how you don't quote anything you've said proving my critiques wrong when I'm quoting your bullshit) (You haven't quoted anything, you're a complete whack-a-doodle, you're just writing one screed after another, full of nonsense). I don't need to quote anything....also because they don't exist. You need to point to any evidence of me showing how wrong you are, and you can't. That is why every "response" you have is a deflection.
You can't conceive of a world where the US doesn't try to run everything and your point about SA, Turk, and UAE being proxies shows you don't know what the eff you are talking. (Apparently you can conceive of a world where the U.S. utterly impotent and doesn't in fact spend more on it's military industrial and intelligence complex then the next 7 to 10 countries combined. Apparently you live under the deluded belief that every action under taken or influenced by the United State by these proxies is going to be discussed on the front page of the NYT's or somehow make into the Congressional record) LOL what does this even mean? It makes no sense. I would love to slash our defense budget. I would love to stop rough ridin' with countries that act against our interests from Israel to Saudi Arabia. You're the one who says our random "allies" act only according to our interest/demands when it's totally rough ridin' wrong.
We haven't been able to get them off the sidelines in a meaningful way and had beg Turkey to let us use Incirlik.(Who is them? And thanks for telling all of us who pay any attention what we knew about Incirlik weeks ago, what has that really got to do with anything? You're just trying to sound smart . . . and doing it poorly I might add, because, as I've said you can't handle any criticism of this administration) Once again me showing how you've left out too many details that show you know nothing about the region and how all of those details add up to destroy your talking points. But that is nothing new to you.
So eff your neo-colonialist conspiracy theorist mindset. (so one minute I don't discuss colonialism and the next it's neo-colonialism Bullshit. So tell me for example who was running the entirety of the operation in Libya the end? U.S. drones overhead, JSOC boots on the ground. Who was the chief inciter of Arab Spring? Who selling more arms then anyone in the world to ME countries, by ratios factored 10:1, 15:1 or much higher? Just because old men smoking cigars aren't gathered in a room dividing up an old dusty map of the Middle East doesn't mean that a modern form of colonialism doesn't exist. Just more pseudo-intellectual nonsense from you). Libya Libya Libya, if you say it enough you can eff Hillary. The fact that you keep saying the chief inciter of the Arab Spring is the US or any western force shows how rough ridin' stupid you are. It shows that you can't think of brown people as independent actors (see how you do this for their governments too?). Nice deflection to a personal attack again because you're dumbass is exposed and you have no answer. But please tell me more how the Arab Spring was started by the west as a form of Neo colonialism.
You're an ass who would rather make political hay while the French blood is still being spilt because, like many Republicans now, the safety of the US and our allies, the merit of our values are second, and the truth of what America is doing in the world are all secondary to attacking Obama. (First off there's an entirely other thread for Paris you dumbass, remember? It's absolutely hypocritical for any Prog-Lib to talk about making political hay because literally anything that happens that's centered around Prog-Lib causes and Prog-Libs will be politicizing it within minutes. The destabilization of Syria and terrorists infiltrating Europe and probably the U.S. as refugees is a direct result of U.S. and Western policy. Obama's leadership on this issue is just laughable, his little microphone time from the G20 yesterday was a passionless, stammering barrage of nothingness. He knows he and his administration are largely responsible for this mess getting out of hand. Since Obama has taken over the ME and the periphery and now Europe are ablaze in war (and probably soon here), far beyond just Afghanistan and Iraq and few brush fire situations. It's also not unthinkable to legitimately ask if it's been done on purpose) Yep the prog libs (nice continued use of the manufactured talking point you subscribe to) totally politicized everything first...except for you proving your point wrong by your own actions. The "prog libs" were too busy crying their bleeding hearts to self serving pity while you were running your mouth talking about Obama. So nice job falling over yourself here. But to the rest of your blither, yes the west has mumped up. But Daesh didn't explode until regional powers supplied them with money and arms. Daesh didn't explode until Maliki crap all over the Sunnis for years (nice job neo-cons installing that rough rider). Obama isn't putting our boots back on the ground so he isn't leading. Or he doesn't want our young men and women killed while our "allies" are directly supporting Daesh. Or he doesn't want our people on the ground while regional powers are refusing to step up and lead and are instead waiting for America to put our asses on the line again. But those are facts that don't support YOUR agenda so you IGNORE THEM. But it's great you think this has been done on purpose. I'm really glad you finally went full Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) here and said something like that. But to educate you further, The ME is a problem by its own making along with the entire western bloc rough ridin' around entrenching every problem further. Is the region that much worse when Reagan was in office and we were supporting Saddam and there was a decade long war killing hundreds of thousands with the regime, under US support, using weapons of mass destruction? Or is it worse now or when we had 241 service members killed sleeping in their barracks? Get some rough ridin' perspective, quit with this bullshit hyperbole, and quit thinking the ME was an oasis before Obama. Or better yet, come up with a better conspiracy theory