Feasibility

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I'm contemplating splurging up to $10 on lunch today, but first, is there anybody here who'd be willing to do a quick feasibility study on this option?

[sonofdaxjones]

I'm contemplating splurging up to $10 on lunch today, but first, is there anybody here who'd be willing to do a quick feasibility study on this option?

We'll get back to you in 3 years.

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I'm contemplating splurging up to $10 on lunch today, but first, is there anybody here who'd be willing to do a quick feasibility study on this option?

We'll get back to you in 3 years.

I'LL BE HUNGRY BY NOON! 

[sys]

I'm contemplating splurging up to $10 on lunch today, but first, is there anybody here who'd be willing to do a quick feasibility study on this option?

We'll get back to you in 3 years.

I'LL BE HUNGRY BY NOON! 

hire an interim lunch.   

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20100427/SPORTS03/4270389/Binghamton+University+signs+Macon+to+2-year+extension+to+remain+interim+basketball+coach

[Panjandrum]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

[The42Yardstick]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

I will fight you

[pissclams]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

wtf is a feasibility stage anyways?  if you spend 3 years stuck in feasibility, then the project probably isn't feasible.

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How much does a feasibility stage cost?  Is it even feasible?

[Panjandrum]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

They need to change how they handle the student seating.  I know all of the backstory behind it, and I get the arguments that it will kill the 'soul' of Bramlage, but we need money, and it's like there's a huge gold mine sitting under section 19-20, and we can't dig because there's some sort of sacred Indian thing on it.

We need more seats, and I'm totally for that, but we need to maximize the revenue that's there.

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I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

I've heard the same ast least as to the practice facility.  Seems contradictory to the "transparency" mantra.  Also seems like there were a bunch of chatters chatting at him that would probably donate some money if there was something tangible to donate to.  

[pissclams]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

They need to change how they handle the student seating.  I know all of the backstory behind it, and I get the arguments that it will kill the 'soul' of Bramlage, but we need money, and it's like there's a huge gold mine sitting under section 19-20, and we can't dig because there's some sort of sacred Indian thing on it.

We need more seats, and I'm totally for that, but we need to maximize the revenue that's there.

the thought that the student section is a huge gold mine just isn't true.  where are these huge k-state supporters that for years haven't been able to get to the chairbacks (despite ponying up tons of cash to the AD) going to come from?  they don't exist and it's LOLABLE that ADJC may think they do. 

[Panjandrum]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

wtf is a feasibility stage anyways?  if you spend 3 years stuck in feasibility, then the project probably isn't feasible.

My understanding is that they say, "This is what we want.  How much will that cost?" (I'm sure Dax will correct me on this).  That can take time.

There would be bulldozers there right now if Krause were still here, though.  They had multiple phases planned out according to my friend.  The old idea of joining BSFS and Bramlage with suites was actually being discussed as a future phase project.

[Panjandrum]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

They need to change how they handle the student seating.  I know all of the backstory behind it, and I get the arguments that it will kill the 'soul' of Bramlage, but we need money, and it's like there's a huge gold mine sitting under section 19-20, and we can't dig because there's some sort of sacred Indian thing on it.

We need more seats, and I'm totally for that, but we need to maximize the revenue that's there.

the thought that the student section is a huge gold mine just isn't true.  where are these huge k-state supporters that for years haven't been able to get to the chairbacks (despite ponying up tons of cash to the AD) going to come from?  they don't exist and it's LOLABLE that ADJC may think they do. 

I agree to a point.  However, how much are they charging students nowadays for basketball season tickets?  ICAT?  The average season ticket holder would pay at least $100 more a seat, and because they're mid-court, you could force an Ahearn donation on top of it.  I'm not talking about generating tens of millions, but depending on where you move the students, you could increase your seat revenues and Ahearn donations by moving the students over a couple of sections.

Granted, this is all based on the assumption that there's a desirable product on the floor.  It's a totally moot point if we don't sell out season tickets, so I'm with you.  However, if we ever get to that point, moving the students is something that needs to be put on the table.

[mrfreddio55]

should just take the student seating out completely, imo. worthless amount of revenue coming in from those losers.

[kso_FAN]

should just take the student seating out completely, imo. worthless amount of revenue coming in from those losers.

Just give them the top 3-5 rows all the way around the OOD. 

[pissclams]

I talked to a friend of mine who works for one of the contracted firms.  I think Currie is downplaying where they're at.  According to him, it's on.  They blew it up and are starting all over again, but it will happen.

Also, it sounds like expanded seating is past the feasibility phase and into the 'how do we get more seats in there?' phase.

they really need to add more premium seats. get rid of the media or make them watch the game from a tv in the basement or something.

They need to change how they handle the student seating.  I know all of the backstory behind it, and I get the arguments that it will kill the 'soul' of Bramlage, but we need money, and it's like there's a huge gold mine sitting under section 19-20, and we can't dig because there's some sort of sacred Indian thing on it.

We need more seats, and I'm totally for that, but we need to maximize the revenue that's there.

the thought that the student section is a huge gold mine just isn't true.  where are these huge k-state supporters that for years haven't been able to get to the chairbacks (despite ponying up tons of cash to the AD) going to come from?  they don't exist and it's LOLABLE that ADJC may think they do. 

I agree to a point.  However, how much are they charging students nowadays for basketball season tickets?  ICAT?  The average season ticket holder would pay at least $100 more a seat, and because they're mid-court, you could force an Ahearn donation on top of it.  I'm not talking about generating tens of millions, but depending on where you move the students, you could increase your seat revenues and Ahearn donations by moving the students over a couple of sections.

Granted, this is all based on the assumption that there's a desirable product on the floor.  It's a totally moot point if we don't sell out season tickets, so I'm with you.  However, if we ever get to that point, moving the students is something that needs to be put on the table.

i think the solution is to ask for money from the people that have it (we can call them the Five-Percent Nation or Five Percenters), and not trying to nickle and dime our base into giving money that they may already be considering cutting back on spending.

[sonofdaxjones]

Like I said, I am pretty sure this is all being done quietly because there's just a certain perpetually pi$$ed off at everything contingent on campus who don't like anything being built unless it's for them (with the exception of a $12 million dollar leadership studies building, I am ticked off about that myself . . .  a new $12 million dollar building so Jon Wefald can have a cushy office .  . . pathetic).

[Belvis Noland]

Then again, we are talking about a school that built a brand new $12 million dollar building to support an academic minor program...

Privately financed.  No loans or backed bonds.  If you're upset, you should talk to Warren Staley. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Then again, we are talking about a school that built a brand new $12 million dollar building to support an academic minor program...

Privately financed.  No loans or backed bonds.  If you're upset, you should talk to Warren Staley. 

Meanwhile . . . there's about $40-$50 million dollars worth of buildings that will need to be privately financed that they can't find the money for, that will go towards supporting entities that put K-State on the map.   Leadership studies minors aren't impressing anyone.  It was just the Weefers pet project that he talked a bunch of people into contributing money towards.

[Belvis Noland]

Meanwhile . . . there's about $40-$50 million dollars worth of buildings that will need to be privately financed that they can't find the money for, that will go towards supporting entities that put K-State on the map.   Leadership studies minors aren't impressing anyone.  It was just the Weefers pet project that he talked a bunch of people into contributing money towards.

Yeah.  Again, privately financed.  I could see your argument if we financed this building out of the general budget, necessitating cutting programs and services.  To argue that Staley's money could have been used more appropriatey, however, just doesn't make sense. 

Staley's $$$ goes where Staley wants.  Much like Jack Vanier's $$$ goes to the football team, not the Equestrian team.   

If the Engineering, Business, and Architecture Schools need upgrades, they should solicit private donations.  I just wrote a check to the Business School, for instance.  Because they called me and asked. 

Warren Staley isn't the only rich KSU alumnus out there.   

[Mikeyis4dcats]

Like I said, I am pretty sure this is all being done quietly because there's just a certain perpetually pi$$ed off at everything contingent on campus who don't like anything being built unless it's for them (with the exception of a $12 million dollar leadership studies building, I am ticked off about that myself . . .  a new $12 million dollar building so Jon Wefald can have a cushy office .  . . pathetic).

The Leadership Studies building was built solely through donation made by a wealthy individual whom gifted the money solely for that purpose and controlled it all, including the contractor.

[chum1]

Agree with dax.  Leadership studies minor is totally worthless.  Even if it was entirely the rich guy's idea, which it wasn't, they should have told him, "Thanks, but here's where we really need help."

[Dr Rick Daris]

change the basketball teams name from the wildcats to the kansas state leadership studies and have them practice in that new building. BAM! NEXT!

[Belvis Noland]

It was just the Weefers pet project that he talked a bunch of people into contributing money towards.

You've also got to remember that Wefald could have been contractually obligated (see in Pursuit of Perfection LLC) to build Prince a new facility in which he could preach Leadership.