Author Topic: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look (Read 139083 times)

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #275 on:** June 17, 2016, 11:40:59 AM »

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on June 16, 2016, 10:55:02 AM

Haven't read much of the thread, but has this been mentioned? Very excited for it.

Thanks SB! I'll be checking that out.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #276 on:** June 17, 2016, 01:52:44 PM »

A lot of you guys would really enjoy Hannibal Burris's comedy

[youtube]https://youtu.be/feXnZZ2o5ys[/youtube]

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #277 on:** June 17, 2016, 09:44:01 PM »

Saw him last year and it was gr8.

sys · « **Reply #278 on:** June 17, 2016, 09:50:22 PM »

originally, i enjoyed being outraged by shrieking whiny over-privileged yale girl. now i kinda feel bad for her.

stunted · « **Reply #279 on:** July 23, 2016, 12:05:03 AM »

https://twitter.com/Andrewmd5/status/756667918516097024

Wikileaks

The Big Train · « **Reply #280 on:** July 23, 2016, 12:09:30 AM »

I mean just use TOR like any normal citizen that knows that they're doing

michigancat · « **Reply #281 on:** July 23, 2016, 12:47:06 AM »

Quote from: stunted on July 23, 2016, 12:05:03 AM

https://twitter.com/Andrewmd5/status/756667918516097024

Wikileaks

Huh. I could access from twitter to android on chrome.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/592

I browsed some emails and they were mostly pretty boring. This one was very heh:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4075

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #282 on:** July 24, 2016, 01:19:29 PM »

It's because .org is different than .com.

renocat · « **Reply #283 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:56:46 PM »

Clemson University has banned the displaying of posters of gorillas. They say they are a symbol of racism and rape. Another college banned gorilla floor decorations as being symbolic of masculinity.

stunted · « **Reply #284 on:** September 29, 2016, 10:45:09 PM »

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/29/so-brave-this-university-of-michigan-kid

MakeItRain · « **Reply #285 on:** October 12, 2016, 11:31:54 AM »

Quote from: memphis on October 11, 2016, 09:18:40 PM

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/10/uva-prof-agrees-to-leave-of-absence-afte

"I don't agree with this comment—Black Lives Matter is bringing much-needed attention to important issues like police brutality, even if I disagree with some of their more extreme tactics and views about wealth redistribution. Obviously, BLM is not a domestic terrorist organization on par with the Klu Klux Klan.

But if Muir thinks so, that's his right. The proper response is to criticize him, not censor him."

They should fire him.

catastrophe · « **Reply #286 on:** October 12, 2016, 01:10:31 PM »

That's not censorship. That's just the university trying to distance itself from the comment.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #287 on:** October 12, 2016, 01:30:15 PM »

Yeah, if you're a professor at the University of Virginia saying stupid crap that's also politically charged, in a public forum, should get you fired. Employing someone as a professor, whip clearly isn't an intellectual, is bad for business.

sys · « **Reply #288 on:** October 12, 2016, 02:09:59 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 12, 2016, 01:30:15 PM

Yeah, if you're a professor at the University of Virginia saying stupid crap that's also politically charged, in a public forum, should get you fired. Employing someone as a professor, whip clearly isn't an intellectual, is bad for business.

haven't read the article, but that's exactly why tenure was invented, so professors could say political stuff in public forums without getting fired. i strongly agree with tenure and the principle behind it.

michigancat · « **Reply #289 on:** October 12, 2016, 02:38:26 PM »

Quote from: sys on October 12, 2016, 02:09:59 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on October 12, 2016, 01:30:15 PM
Yeah, if you're a professor at the University of Virginia saying stupid crap that's also politically charged, in a public forum, should get you fired. Employing someone as a professor, whip clearly isn't an intellectual, is bad for business.

haven't read the article, but that's exactly why tenure was invented, so professors could say political stuff in public forums without getting fired. i strongly agree with tenure and the principle behind it.

I would doubt he had tenure, he was an "executive lecturer".

http://www.eands.virginia.edu/faculty-staff/muir/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmuir

DQ12 · « **Reply #290 on:** October 12, 2016, 03:16:35 PM »

regardless of whether or not he had tenure and academic freedom generally, it's still a case of the government punishing one of its employees based on the content of his speech. if this was a private school, this wouldn't raise my eyebrow at all. but would UVA have fired him if he came out with adamant support of BLM? if not, that seems like textbook viewpoint discrimination to me.

if I were him i'd be on the horn with the ACLU this afternoon.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #291 on:** October 12, 2016, 03:38:58 PM »

If they fire him he should be happy to be free of the shackles that bind him.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #292 on:** October 12, 2016, 04:12:22 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on October 12, 2016, 03:16:35 PM

regardless of whether or not he had tenure and academic freedom generally, it's still a case of the government punishing one of its employees based on the content of his speech. if this was a private school, this wouldn't raise my eyebrow at all. but would UVA have fired him if he came out with adamant support of BLM? if not, that seems like textbook viewpoint discrimination to me.

if I were him i'd be on the horn with the ACLU this afternoon.

I'm guessing its pretty easy to support BLM without alienating a large group of people like one would when comparing them to the "clan." Seems to me that they could make a pretty easy case that his airing of his viewpoint publicly would make it impossible for him to properly do his job.

catastrophe · « **Reply #293 on:** October 12, 2016, 04:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on October 12, 2016, 03:16:35 PM

regardless of whether or not he had tenure and academic freedom generally, it's still a case of the government punishing one of its employees based on the content of his speech. if this was a private school, this wouldn't raise my eyebrow at all. but would UVA have fired him if he came out with adamant support of BLM? if not, that seems like textbook viewpoint discrimination to me.

if I were him i'd be on the horn with the ACLU this afternoon.

I'm skeptical it could really be that black and white. The speech at issue likely had nothing to do with his job, and I would think the suspension has not so much to do with the ideas behind the speech and instead is focused on the very poor judgment shown in how he made the statement.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #294 on:** October 12, 2016, 04:43:10 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on October 12, 2016, 03:16:35 PM

regardless of whether or not he had tenure and academic freedom generally, it's still a case of the government punishing one of its employees based on the content of his speech. if this was a private school, this wouldn't raise my eyebrow at all. but would UVA have fired him if he came out with adamant support of BLM? if not, that seems like textbook viewpoint discrimination to me.

if I were him i'd be on the horn with the ACLU this afternoon.

Even if this guy sues the school and wins, firing him is just the right thing to do.

DQ12 · « **Reply #295 on:** October 13, 2016, 10:56:12 AM »

Yeah. Maybe so. And after looking at some of my old notes, I may be wrong about the first amendment issue here. I still think the notion of punishing professors based on their speech re. political topics is a little dicey. That said, his comment was hyperbolic and a gross exaggeration (at best).

In any event, he technically resigned, so there's probably not really an issue here anyway.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #296 on:** October 17, 2016, 07:49:27 PM »

Welcome to facepalm city, teachers of pc fascism

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fbis-online-anti-extremism-effort-meets-resistance-1476728750?mod=e2tw

renocat · « **Reply #297 on:** November 02, 2016, 01:02:36 PM »

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/29757/
The future under manhaters.

SdK · « **Reply #298 on:** November 02, 2016, 01:08:35 PM »

"You can't talk legs onto a fish...we are going to go extinct and we are going to do it drinking scotch and muscle cars."

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #299 on:** November 03, 2016, 09:33:10 PM »

This seemed like the proper place for this

http://www.wsj.com/articles/harvard-suspends-mens-soccer-team-over-sexually-explicit-rankings-of-women-players-1478215057?mod=e2tw

Author Topic: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look (Read 139083 times)

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