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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1375 on: September 05, 2019, 08:59:21 AM »
Cross posted in the melting down about Trump thread.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/poll-73-percent-of-republican-students-have-withheld-political-views-in-class-for-fear-their-grades-would-suffer/

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• Kansas State: Professor the day after the presidential election kicked two students wearing MAGA hats out of class. I was appalled. We’re all people, if someone disagrees with you — love them anyways.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1376 on: September 05, 2019, 09:45:59 AM »
cRusty, just never pictured you as a goose stepper  :surprised:
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1378 on: September 05, 2019, 12:42:33 PM »
I’d just stand up and speak my beliefs.  Also I’d work that much harder so go ahead and drop my grades I’ll still get an A+

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1379 on: September 05, 2019, 09:05:09 PM »
Kind of ashamed of the Pubs for not standing up to the Facist Libs. 

Gonna have to toughen up in order take on the most dangerous political party in the world.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1380 on: September 05, 2019, 09:08:41 PM »
I mean yeah.

If that is really how you feel. Pubs not standing up for there beliefs to a bunch of dorky ass lib arts professors probably doesn't inspire much hope.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1381 on: September 05, 2019, 09:20:40 PM »
I mean yeah.

If that is really how you feel. Pubs not standing up for there beliefs to a bunch of dorky ass lib arts professors probably doesn't inspire much hope.

With Facist Libs now rolling on to the next step by making lists, are we far off from the Facist American Left going full Pol Pot?








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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1382 on: September 05, 2019, 10:26:09 PM »
makes you think...

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« Reply #1383 on: September 06, 2019, 02:38:01 PM »
makes you think...

What will be the ploy?  Long march, agrarian utopia, re-education camps?

Khmer Rouge style Scarfs?  Antifa black hoods and masks?



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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1384 on: September 06, 2019, 02:47:23 PM »
it really could be all of those things


or maybe just trying to get more people reasonable access to health care

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1385 on: September 06, 2019, 02:50:33 PM »
it really could be all of those things


or maybe just trying to get more people reasonable access to health care

I'll go full Slow Dug for a moment and say that you really have to be utterly uniformed and frankly just lazy to not be able to get reasonable access to healthcare in this country.

But that's a LickNeckyFlection from the main theme of this thread.

So, are you thinking Rooseveltian style internment camps, Lick?   

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1386 on: September 06, 2019, 03:00:22 PM »
i think watching you turn into the personification of crazy chain email has been both fascinating and kinda sad

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1387 on: September 06, 2019, 03:01:57 PM »
has charlie kirk peeing in an adult sized diaper and sucking on a binkie not toughened up the alt-right gen z'ers to be brave enough to speak their beliefs? sad

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« Reply #1388 on: September 06, 2019, 03:12:19 PM »
i think watching you turn into the personification of crazy chain email has been both fascinating and kinda sad

When you have a political movement that's advocating (black) lists, oppressing free speech and being triggered by red hats, then who knows what kind of crazy is coming next.

The American Democratic Party:  The most dangerous political party in the world

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1389 on: September 06, 2019, 06:13:46 PM »
very normal comments on that article dax posted.

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Who knew Econ departments were crawling with Marxists?

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Likewise, I dumped a PhD program in Economics, after the professor teaching the mandatory Mathematics class turned his lectures—on mathematics!—into Marxist rants.

I can see how an addled loon might be duped into Hegelian doublethink, when logic contradicts his woefully misguided hypotheses, but Marxism???

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I'm ABD (all but dissertation) in Econometrics because my adviser was a Marxist nutcase from the London School of Economics. I couldn't fight the communists forever not when they held all the cards.

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There was some of it in the mid 70s already. Only one lib who would really hit you on grades for it openly (econ), but one or two others seemed sneakier.
On the other hand, I did have one very left prof from Sweden, who gave us a single essay question for the final exam. When I went to find out my grade, he said "I had to give you an A, because you were the only one who understood the question". He gave an 'A' to many others too though, I found out. I have always wondered on what basis.

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I made sure I presented point-counterpoint to show the best arguments, and that worked with some but not others. The negative example that most frosts me was with an econ prof. I always got every objective question right, but he always gave my (point-heavy) essays a zero even though I explained what he maintained before showing a weakness in it or an alternative.
In his class I went into the final in such bad shape, that only if I got precisely 100%, could I have salvaged a 'D'.
I didn't study, and didn't know what I was going to do, but when I got the paper, I wrote at the top in big letters "I don't believe anything I say here," Then used the essay to parrot every nuance of his doctrine.
I actually got one objective question wrong on that exam, the first time I ever had, but he gave me a 'C' for the course, which was mathematically impossible.
The only thing I can believe from this, is that he saw that I had finally undertaken the path toward obedience. That is disgusting.
And by the way, I didn't in all classes deserve an A, I wasn't fixated on grades, which I know sounds incomprehensible. I am sure it would have then too if anyone had asked. I just went there to learn.

Sounds like it is pretty hard being a rich white person in South Africa.

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If I had a penny for every time I've had to catch myself before I revealed my views (classical liberal)... If you think things are bad in America, try being a non black-supremacist-communist in South Africa. They'll quite literally crucify you and your family. I wrote a paper in one of my one-semester electives (socio-anthropology) in my first year in which I was not as enthusiastic about the conclusion (which aligned perfectly with what I knew the lecturer wanted) as the lecturer wanted, and I was slammed with a 60%, it was the only paper I wrote that year that got less than 80%, and most got 90+. She even rapped me for using 'he' in my generic person example instead of 'she'.

I learned there that the best thing for you was to just swallow your pride, and your core principles, and write the babble tripe your lecturer wants and get your certificate. I hope to eventually return to academia (I'm working to save up money for my masters right now) and I promised myself if I would never do something like that to any of my students.

It's perfectly fine for a professor to have positions on these kinds of matters, but their job is to teach their students to think for themselves, not to indoctrinate them to hold the professor's views, regardless of what they might be. They exist to teach students how to think, not what to think.

Finally some practical advice for the conservative on campus:

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1390 on: September 06, 2019, 08:33:57 PM »
lmao nerds


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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1391 on: September 06, 2019, 10:24:40 PM »
#triggered
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1392 on: September 07, 2019, 01:34:37 PM »
Those dudes get wedgies and no girls

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1393 on: September 07, 2019, 02:03:21 PM »
More than one mud pie has been eaten by that group
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1394 on: September 07, 2019, 05:27:09 PM »
if only pubs were willing to surrender there second amendment rights as cowardly as they will  there first.

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« Reply #1395 on: September 07, 2019, 06:47:44 PM »
lmao nerds


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You laugh, but imagine if you would've had a Marxist econ professor at K-State.....you'd be back home trying to explain it to Tod.
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1397 on: September 13, 2019, 07:43:56 AM »
https://www.vulture.com/2019/09/snl-shane-gillis-racist-homophobic-remarks.html

eff this guy
I watched the video about Chinatown and even though it didn't seem quite as racist as the headlines made it seem it was definitely pretty racist but it was also really really unfunny and those guys looked like just the worst if the worst.

Like Chappelle's bit on not being able to say the f word on his show was some pretty dumb logic but at least it was presented in a funny way.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1398 on: September 13, 2019, 03:13:22 PM »
I think the fact that this kind of crap doesn't bother me at all is a sign of my privilege. Or not. I don't know/care.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1399 on: September 14, 2019, 03:49:29 AM »
don't mind race jokes if it's funny and doesn't put people down, should get at least a chuckle from the people being made fun of. but yea he's just throwing around the c-word to be edgy. really lazy. i think comedians who complain about the whole free speech issue should try and be funnier instead.