Congrats to Baylor, OU, and OSU . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

and TCU.  My postgame recap observos show that your program and players play with a certain swag and level of mean that used to exist in the K-State football program during Snyder I.

As I've alluded to in another thread, we had guys who intimidated people during Snyder I and who were downright mean and scary people on the football field, both mentally and physically.   K-State doesn't have that anymore.   That gives the "I want to lose with my perception of class" Tuck Nation Mafia a hard on, but sadly that sends most football programs spiraling down the standings chart, like K-State is right now.   Right down in the basement with KU.

We've got a bunch of 5 heart good kid feel good stories that make Tuck Nation beam with pride, but who don't intimidate or scare a soul on teams like Baylor, OU, OSU or TCU.

The downward spiral of K-State football is here again, party like it's '04 and '05.

[Cartierfor3]

you mean 04 and 05 i think

[sonofdaxjones]

you mean 04 and 05 i think

Yep.

[Dugout DickStone]

You're telling me you aren't scared of Bazooka Joe's game face?

[slackcat]

No more     

[sonofdaxjones]

You're telling me you aren't scared of Bazooka Joe's game face?

nor am I scared of Tuck Nation complaining about how Baylor wasn't classy.   TNM forgets that we used to be just like that.   

[420seriouscat69]

This is definitely a down year, but i'm not going to meltdown over it, yet. We'll still make a bowl, we have zero QB's, etc. We definitely need to recruit better. Our receivers get no separation and that's why we ran that dumbass play last night, which also gave up our best WR.

[sonofdaxjones]

This is definitely a down year, but i'm not going to meltdown over it, yet. We'll still make a bowl, we have zero QB's, etc. We definitely need to recruit better. Our receivers get no separation and that's why we ran that dumbass play last night, which also gave up our best WR.

That's cool, but the simple facts are you'll need to look back and enjoy 2011 and 2012 because this program is not going to get to those win totals again for a long time.   Your guy Jake Waters and the "bail us out TBL" offense and their 8-4 record are the pinnacle for awhile.

Plus it's absolute fact that K-State football doesn't intimidate anybody anymore.   Which is sorry.

[420seriouscat69]

True, but it was 9-4, dammit! 

[OK_Cat]

Fanning thinks this team wins 3 more games

[420seriouscat69]

Fanning thinks this team wins 3 more games

Yeah and I'd put a bet on it too. I mean, we took 3 top 15 teams down to the wire (not moral victoring here), so I just feel like we'll beat these other pud teams.

[OK_Cat]

Fanning thinks this team wins 3 more games

Yeah and I'd put a bet on it too. I mean, we took 3 top 15 teams down to the wire (not moral victoring here), so I just feel like we'll beat these other pud teams.

I'd say that those 3 games were close because the top 15 opponent was overlooking a pud ksu team.

[420seriouscat69]

I think that's a dumb theory, but that's why we all have our own opinions, man.

['taterblast]

osu went 6-6 last year, and needed somewhat of a miracle in norman to not finish the season with 6 straight losses.

[sonofdaxjones]

They're clearly back on track and they're landing and playing with multiple NFL prospects. 

I've been (back) in Stillwater multiple times just in the past month or so, and while I think they have a nice campus and that BPS is a nice facility, they have absolutely nothing better then K-State outside of their still very new Indoor Practice Facility and practice fields.   Otherwise K-State is equal to and at this juncture likely superior to them from a facilities perspective.    Stillwater is still Stillwater and Manhattan is a much nicer town.    But they have a young and aggressive coaching staff and recruiters and that will continue to be the difference until something changes.

[joda]

Yea, OSU should be the at least of expectations for KState football.

[j rake]

k-state has been favored in three games and underdogs in five games. they won all three games they were favored and lost all five games where they've been underdogs. they will be favored in three of their final four games the rest of the way, and will likely win three of them. aside from the oklahoma game, which was dreadful, this k-state team has largely exceeded expectations. they've covered the spread in three of five league games and were a garbage late TD away from covering a fourth.

they were underdogs in four of nine league games last year. they were underdogs in four of nine league games the year before. in two the year before. in seven the year before. in five the year before. in seven the year before. and on and on.

in the foreseeable future, k-state is going to be the less talented team six or seven times (out of nine) per year. in some years, home field can help neutralize that talent gap, and with a few good breaks they'll have a chance at 7-2 in league play. but that's probably the ceiling.

[Gooch]

"Well golly jeez that about all we could really expect here at little ol K-State" - Every tuck ever

[everyone shut up]

"Well golly jeez that about all we could really expect here at little ol K-State" - Every tuck ever

that crap absolutely annoys me and is exactly why we're in this current situation.

[j rake]

it's just reality. k-state hoops is headed for disaster, and football isn't far behind.

at least hoops has potential for upside post weber.

[XocolateThundarr]

You're telling me you aren't scared of Bazooka Joe's game face?

[Skipper44]

it's just reality. k-state hoops is headed for disaster, and football isn't far behind.

at least hoops has potential for upside post weber.

do you have any additional reasons for the above other than the simple math that it is easier to recruit 2 or 3 good to great players in hoops than recruiting the 3 to 4 needed on each side of ball in football?

[Skipper44]

and TCU.  My postgame recap observos show that your program and players play with a certain swag and level of mean that used to exist in the K-State football program during Snyder I.

As I've alluded to in another thread, we had guys who intimidated people during Snyder I and who were downright mean and scary people on the football field, both mentally and physically.   K-State doesn't have that anymore.   That gives the "I want to lose with my perception of class" Tuck Nation Mafia a hard on, but sadly that sends most football programs spiraling down the standings chart, like K-State is right now.   Right down in the basement with KU.

We've got a bunch of 5 heart good kid feel good stories that make Tuck Nation beam with pride, but who don't intimidate or scare a soul on teams like Baylor, OU, OSU or TCU.

The downward spiral of K-State football is here again, party like it's '04 and '05.

yeah, it really is funny that folks that cheered their asses off for Chris Canty and Nyle Wiren get all upset about how the Baylor bench sways back and forth on kickoffs. 

I really wish we had someone on the staff that was part of the DoD 1.0 swagger, Mike Eckler will likely be looking for work in about 30 days...

[j rake]

it's just reality. k-state hoops is headed for disaster, and football isn't far behind.

at least hoops has potential for upside post weber.

do you have any additional reasons for the above other than the simple math that it is easier to recruit 2 or 3 good to great players in hoops than recruiting the 3 to 4 needed on each side of ball in football?

if briles, patterson and gundy stay where they are, k-state football is rolling a gigantic boulder up a hill in football. what snyder did in pt ii, particularly in the B2B klein years, was as amazing as anything i've witnessed not just in college football, but any sport at any level ever. good luck trying to string together consistent great years in the B12 while facing those five schools year after year in the post snyder era.

i know some get excited about 8-4 or 9-3 and trips to the Wild Wings or Alamo Bowls, but...blah, not all that exciting. k-state can certainly achieve plenty of 7-5 years going forward with occasional 8-4's and 9-3's when everything goes perfect. but post snyder, i'll make k-state a big underdog to post another 10-win season by 2025.

k-state hoops is likely to be in the bottom half of the league for the foreseeable future, but will build toward occasional good years and make the 68-team field every now and then. that's at least semi exciting.

[ednksu]

Huebs demoted again :(
https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/662520052743143424