Marco Rubio Master Thread

[chuckjames]

The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolinah or Nevada.

Ive read he has good infrastructure in Nevada, and that will be his last stand. But EMAW had a better chance in Allen Fieldhouse than Rubio does of winning South Carolina. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

No to SC. I'd say probably not in Nevada, but second. I'll go with Florida unless Bush stays in the race and continues to drag him down.

[CNS]

For all you Bernie supporters, the current Dem totals are:

Hillary Clinton: 394

Bernie Sanders: 42

Something has to be broken when a candidate receives more actual votes but ends up with only 10% of the delegates.

Dems have super delegates that do whatever the eff they want.  Delegates from elections are fairly even.  Republicans have their own version of this.  Helps to make sure the establishment gets what they want.

If this trigger is pulled to award a nomination, and it isn't close, and it still ends up Hill and Rubio are put forward, the next election could see a lot of blood on both sides of the aisle.

[chuckjames]

The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

No to SC. I'd say probably not in Nevada, but second. I'll go with Florida unless Bush stays in the race and continues to drag him down.

Why shouldnt Bush stay in the race? He finished higher than Rubio last night.

[sys]

i agree that the idea of rubio folding right now is lunacy (why is that idea even out there?).  bookmakers still have him as the second most likely pub.


on the other hand, things are going to have to start changing soon.  pubs better hope that events (and donors) can cull at least one of kasich, bush or rubio by the end of south carolina and nevada.  we're down to five, the sooner they can get to three, the better.  it's gotta be a little scary for the establishment candidates that cruz got something like 11% in nh even with trump carrying the state easily and cruz scarcely making an effort.

[chuckjames]

i agree that the idea of rubio folding right now is lunacy (why is that idea even out there?).  bookmakers still have him as the second most likely pub.


on the other hand, things are going to have to start changing soon.  pubs better hope that events (and donors) can cull at least one of kasich, bush or rubio by the end of south carolina and nevada.  we're down to five, the sooner they can get to three, the better.  it's gotta be a little scary for the establishment candidates that cruz got something like 11% in nh even with trump carrying the state easily and cruz scarcely making an effort.

I'm probably overestimating his demise, because thats what i want. But im not nearly as scared of him as a candidate as a was a week ago.

[Emo EMAW]

Rubio being the best looking candidate in this election is not much of a prize.  He would have been 3rd or lower the last two elections.

[sys]

it's gotta be a little scary for the establishment candidates that cruz got something like 11% in nh even with trump carrying the state easily and cruz scarcely making an effort.

expanding on this a little.  in one of the most moderate states they have, non-stablishment candidates easily got almost 50% of the vote.  they can talk all they want about how the surplus of establishment candidates are fracturing the vote, but there's really no reason to think that trump and cruz aren't going to continue to beat the crap out of whichever establishment candidate survives.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The first state that Rubio wins is.....

South Carolina or Nevada.

No to SC. I'd say probably not in Nevada, but second. I'll go with Florida unless Bush stays in the race and continues to drag him down.

Why shouldnt Bush stay in the race? He finished higher than Rubio last night.

Bush finished 4th last night. Behind Ted Cruz. In New Hampshire. New Hampshire was supposed to be favorable ground for him. I cannot envision a single state where he surges back to relevancy.

[CNS]

Yeah, it's basically a question of which kind of crazy you want as a rebublican voter.  Zealot crazy or egomaniac crazy. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

it's gotta be a little scary for the establishment candidates that cruz got something like 11% in nh even with trump carrying the state easily and cruz scarcely making an effort.

expanding on this a little.  in one of the most moderate states they have, non-stablishment candidates easily got almost 50% of the vote.  they can talk all they want about how the surplus of establishment candidates are fracturing the vote, but there's really no reason to think that trump and cruz aren't going to continue to beat the crap out of whichever establishment candidate survives.

Given that Trump and Cruz only combine for about 50% of the primary vote, there's plenty of reason to think one "establishment" candidate would win. We're getting closer to that. Christie and Carson are as good as gone. It's Bush continuing to hang around that could really mess this up.

[chuckjames]

it's gotta be a little scary for the establishment candidates that cruz got something like 11% in nh even with trump carrying the state easily and cruz scarcely making an effort.

expanding on this a little.  in one of the most moderate states they have, non-stablishment candidates easily got almost 50% of the vote.  they can talk all they want about how the surplus of establishment candidates are fracturing the vote, but there's really no reason to think that trump and cruz aren't going to continue to beat the crap out of whichever establishment candidate survives.

Given that Trump and Cruz only combine for about 50% of the primary vote, there's plenty of reason to think one "establishment" candidate would win. We're getting closer to that. Christie and Carson are as good as gone. It's Bush continuing to hang around that could really mess this up.

As Sys said, that was in about a moderate state as they come, you the "establishment" candidates is going to get anywhere near that in the SEC primaries?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

We'll see. First, the Super Tuesday states are not all southern. It's actually pretty diverse. Second, "establishment" Mitt Romney cleaned house on Super Tuesday 2012, beating the "more conservative" candidates Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich.

If the establishment similarly coalesces around a candidate (or even two) by Super Tuesday, there's no reason they can't do reasonably well and significantly blunt Trump's progress.

[CNS]

We'll see. First, the Super Tuesday states are not all southern. It's actually pretty diverse. Second, "establishment" Mitt Romney cleaned house on Super Tuesday 2012, beating the "more conservative" candidates Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich.

If the establishment similarly coalesces around a candidate (or even two) by Super Tuesday, there's no reason they can't do reasonably well and significantly blunt Trump's progress.

I think perceived viability is what killed Santorum and Gingrich.  Santorum was too far to the crazy and Gingrich had a past full of sketchy personal choices.  Mitt was all that was left.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

[CNS]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap. 

[chuckjames]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap.

The thing is Trump is getting the RINO vote more than anyone else. He is the "moderate" candidate. Both the exit polls in Iowa and New Hampshire said that.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap.

True. I would imagine that Cruz will pick up the Carson voters, too.

The thing is Trump is getting the RINO vote more than anyone else. He is the "moderate" candidate. Both the exit polls in Iowa and New Hampshire said that.

I think you need to ask ptolemy just what a RINO is.

[chuckjames]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap.

True. I would imagine that Cruz will pick up the Carson voters, too.

The thing is Trump is getting the RINO vote more than anyone else. He is the "moderate" candidate. Both the exit polls in Iowa and New Hampshire said that.

I think you need to ask ptolemy just what a RINO is.

I believe its anybody who thinks Asbestos is bad for you.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap.

True. I would imagine that Cruz will pick up the Carson voters, too.

The thing is Trump is getting the RINO vote more than anyone else. He is the "moderate" candidate. Both the exit polls in Iowa and New Hampshire said that.

I think you need to ask ptolemy just what a RINO is.

I believe its anybody who thinks Asbestos is bad for you.

http://www.sokolovelaw.com/blog/donald-trump-asbestos/

[chuckjames]

If Trump and Cruz can split the crazy vote, it's possible for a RINO to sneak through. We just need a couple of them to drop out.

The problem is that the Venn diagram of those two types of crazy don't fully overlap.

True. I would imagine that Cruz will pick up the Carson voters, too.

The thing is Trump is getting the RINO vote more than anyone else. He is the "moderate" candidate. Both the exit polls in Iowa and New Hampshire said that.

I think you need to ask ptolemy just what a RINO is.

I believe its anybody who thinks Asbestos is bad for you.

http://www.sokolovelaw.com/blog/donald-trump-asbestos/

WELP. :tipscaps:

[Ptolemy]

http://www.sokolovelaw.com/blog/donald-trump-asbestos/

So a law firm website, a law firm whose very existence was dependent on the extortionary tactics employed in the asbestos farce, is the go-to authority on the subject?

No thanks...

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1999/eirv26n01-19990101/eirv26n01-19990101_016-asbestos_the_real_danger_is_irra.pdf

[Rage Against the McKee]

 

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[Tobias]

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