incentives

[michigancat]

A friend of mine was actually suggested this by a cop (and I'm not making this up) - "if you shoot an intruder, you'd better finish him off."

I am not the least bit surprised that a cop suggested this.

The cop is correct, though. If Trayvon had survived the gun shot, George Zimmerman would be in jail right now.

yes, he is absolutely correct.

A friend of mine was actually suggested this by a cop (and I'm not making this up) - "if you shoot an intruder, you'd better finish him off."

I am not the least bit surprised that a cop suggested this.

I actually kinda was. This wasn't like an off-duty conversation in a bar - the guy was in uniform responding to a burglary.

you are very naive, cops are often pretty terrible people.

[puniraptor]

A friend of mine was actually suggested this by a cop (and I'm not making this up) - "if you shoot an intruder, you'd better finish him off."

I am not the least bit surprised that a cop suggested this.

The cop is correct, though. If Trayvon had survived the gun shot, George Zimmerman would be in jail right now.

I really don't agree with this, at all. Trayvon's own testimony would not have countered the multiple eyewitnesses of him straddling GZ pounding his face in.

doesnt a teenager have the right to defend himself from a creepy middle aged man chasing him in the middle of the night?

[Rage Against the McKee]

A friend of mine was actually suggested this by a cop (and I'm not making this up) - "if you shoot an intruder, you'd better finish him off."

I am not the least bit surprised that a cop suggested this.

The cop is correct, though. If Trayvon had survived the gun shot, George Zimmerman would be in jail right now.

I really don't agree with this, at all. Trayvon's own testimony would not have countered the multiple eyewitnesses of him straddling GZ pounding his face in.

doesnt a teenager have the right to defend himself from a creepy middle aged man chasing him in the middle of the night?

armed creepy middle aged man, at that

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

A friend of mine was actually suggested this by a cop (and I'm not making this up) - "if you shoot an intruder, you'd better finish him off."

I am not the least bit surprised that a cop suggested this.

The cop is correct, though. If Trayvon had survived the gun shot, George Zimmerman would be in jail right now.

I really don't agree with this, at all. Trayvon's own testimony would not have countered the multiple eyewitnesses of him straddling GZ pounding his face in.

doesnt a teenager have the right to defend himself from a creepy middle aged man chasing him in the middle of the night?

armed creepy middle aged man, at that

No, he doesn't. Being followed by a creepy individual at night is not going to be enough to give a reasonable fear of imminent grave bodily harm or death sufficient to attack the person and invoke s-y-g. And Trayvon didn't know GZ was armed. If he knew GZ was armed and attacked him anyway, that makes him stupid to boot. But anyway, back to the weird rash of Chinese people murdering kids hit by cars?

[puniraptor]

if trayvon lived, then he would have been able to testify why he had a reasonable fear of imminent potential bodily harm. thats why that cop told guy that how important it is to kill your victim/witness to death

[renocat]

I thought a guy getting beat to death in India for eating beef was bad, but this takes the frosting off the cake.  Must be global warming causing this.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

if trayvon lived, then he would have been able to testify why he had a reasonable fear of imminent potential bodily harm. thats why that cop told guy that how important it is to kill your victim/witness to death

Maybe, but doubtful. It's not enough to say you had a reasonable fear - a jury has to believe it. Trayvon's friend did not provide helpful testimony on this point.

[TheHamburglar]

I thought the shoot to kill, leave one story on a home invasion thing was common knowledge.  I've heard it multiple times from multiple people since I was a kid. 

[Skipper44]

protip: get the body inside your home

[Spracne]

Did you read the article? This isn't about children. While some of the victims are children, many arent. The age of the victims is not the controlling aspect, here. Read the article before commenting next time, please.

[SdK]

Everything's a soapbox for anti-abortion preaching, Spracne.

[Mrs. Gooch]

I thought the shoot to kill, leave one story on a home invasion thing was common knowledge.  I've heard it multiple times from multiple people since I was a kid.

Yes, I thought so too.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Did you read the article? This isn't about children. While some of the victims are children, many arent. The age of the victims is not the controlling aspect, here. Read the article before commenting next time, please.

You are reaching for a distinction to avoid the obvious truth. I read the article, and I never said that the age of the victims were the controlling factor. I focused on the children because people should be naturally (biologically, even) most attuned to protecting children, so how they treat children is a good metric.

My point is that a culture that does not respect the lives of children and the unborn is unlikely to have much respect for life in general. When "societies" decide to do monstruous things "for the greater good" - like forced abortion - life and dignity are devalued. When life and dignity are devalued, and morality is more or less non-existent, it leads to an epidemic of "hit and kill," regardless of age. That life is worth far less than the risk of paying money damages.